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I'm not sure why I am getting downvoted to hell (also Igglyboo's entirely legit question). I just stated a fact, it's really undeniable.

by Morgawr 12y ago

rawland 12y ago
Observed a similar behavior yesterday with critical comments towards Apple's Swift and its similarity to LightTable. I guess a few HN members sense trolling or exert implicit trolling towards critical comments by downvoting them. Got me started to think about: http://mattmaroon.com/2010/11/23/i-quit-hacker-news/ http://mattmaroon.com/2010/11/23/i-quit-hacker-news/ Matt's reasons: 1. Lack of down-vote means vocal minorities are disproportionately represented. 2. Votes on comments are used to express agreement or disagreement rather than value, perhaps because many people simply cannot see the difference between the two. 3. The community is full of ideologues to the point where the comments are most often just predictable talking points being regurgitated ad nauseum. 4. The community is often snobbish and out of touch with how the other half lives. 5. It's a time suck. 6. It removes comments from where they should be, on the destination site. 7. It reduces blogging time. Food for thought. Disclaimer: I'm a devotee of HN; It's home, but also I'm a devotee of critical thinking.
nl 12y ago
You are being downvoted because your point is pretty much irrelevant for most people. Clearly this is about comparing the editors. Analytics is orthogonal to that. If you want to talk about the costs and benefits of Google Analytics them I'm sure there's another thread where it is more relevant. Igglyboo's comment is probably downvoted because they don't "seem similar" at all beyond the idea that they both work with code.
- Morgawr 12y ago
  >Analytics is orthogonal to that Not when it's included in the editor as a default[0]. If we want to strictly compare editors then we should talk about Codemirror instead of LightTable. This point is really moot. I've used both Atom and LightTable and while I'm not going to argue about the pros and cons of either (I ditched Atom for various reasons), even just thinking about putting some Google web tracking device as an opt-out (instead of opt-in) really makes me abhor Atom. You can disagree with me and you can prefer Atom over LightTable, it's all good, however downvoting because you don't like simple statements that are true won't make them any less true. [0]https://atom.io/faq https://atom.io/faq
  - nl 12y ago
    Downvoting because of irrelevance is reasonable IMHO.

I'm not sure why I am getting downvoted to hell (also Igglyboo's entirely legit question). I just stated a fact, it's really undeniable.

by Morgawr 12y ago

I'm not sure why I am getting downvoted to hell (also Igglyboo's entirely legit question). I just stated a fact, it's really undeniable.

rawland 12y ago

Observed a similar behavior yesterday with critical comments towards Apple's Swift and its similarity to LightTable. I guess a few HN members sense trolling or exert implicit trolling towards critical comments by downvoting them. Got me started to think about: http://mattmaroon.com/2010/11/23/i-quit-hacker-news/ http://mattmaroon.com/2010/11/23/i-quit-hacker-news/ Matt's reasons: 1. Lack of down-vote means vocal minorities are disproportionately represented. 2. Votes on comments are used to express agreement or disagreement rather than value, perhaps because many people simply cannot see the difference between the two. 3. The community is full of ideologues to the point where the comments are most often just predictable talking points being regurgitated ad nauseum. 4. The community is often snobbish and out of touch with how the other half lives. 5. It's a time suck. 6. It removes comments from where they should be, on the destination site. 7. It reduces blogging time. Food for thought. Disclaimer: I'm a devotee of HN; It's home, but also I'm a devotee of critical thinking.

nl 12y ago

You are being downvoted because your point is pretty much irrelevant for most people. Clearly this is about comparing the editors. Analytics is orthogonal to that. If you want to talk about the costs and benefits of Google Analytics them I'm sure there's another thread where it is more relevant. Igglyboo's comment is probably downvoted because they don't "seem similar" at all beyond the idea that they both work with code.

Morgawr 12y ago
>Analytics is orthogonal to that Not when it's included in the editor as a default[0]. If we want to strictly compare editors then we should talk about Codemirror instead of LightTable. This point is really moot. I've used both Atom and LightTable and while I'm not going to argue about the pros and cons of either (I ditched Atom for various reasons), even just thinking about putting some Google web tracking device as an opt-out (instead of opt-in) really makes me abhor Atom. You can disagree with me and you can prefer Atom over LightTable, it's all good, however downvoting because you don't like simple statements that are true won't make them any less true. [0]https://atom.io/faq https://atom.io/faq
- nl 12y ago
  Downvoting because of irrelevance is reasonable IMHO.