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The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

by lucian1900 12y ago

npinguy 12y ago
While I agree, I think Apple's core demographics does not want to think about the file system. There are enough abstractions created by the apps to the point that users don't think about where their files are at all. It's not how I want to operate either, but that's the direction Apple has been heading to for a long time
- surreal 12y ago
  Although they do seem to be backtracking on this stance with yesterday's iCloud Drive announcement [1], giving access to the filesystem they've been trying to hide away for the last few years [1] http://m.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apple-challenges-dropbox-and-google-drive-with-new-mail-and-icloud-features-1251505 http://m.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apple-chal...
oneeyedpigeon 12y ago
Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.
- gnaffle 12y ago
  If you Mac loses power and doesn't get to do a normal shutdown, you're eventually going to get file system errors that you can only fix by booting from a recovery disk. I've had this happen numerous times due to a broken battery on my laptop. If you've never ever run a disk repair on your Mac, do one and you might be surprised. You should expect more from a filesystem in 2014.
- Shivetya 12y ago
  how about locking my entire system when it wakes externally connected USB drives, namely my time machine. Oddly it seems to occur while I surf. That and permissions seem to get screwy at times. I had a long running issue where I could not launch JAR files, found others with similar issues and finally figured out, I no longer had permission to my own user folder and the JAR I was launching needed to create a working directory. Ended up solving the problem for more than myself. I still try to figure out the desire for case sensitivity in about anything
- archagon 12y ago
  Man, I sure hope Apple's next FS keeps both of those features. I think most ordinary users find them very valuable.
- orkoden 12y ago
  http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/
- gsnedders 12y ago
  There has been a case-sensitive variant of HFS+ supported for a decade now.

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

npinguy 12y ago

While I agree, I think Apple's core demographics does not want to think about the file system. There are enough abstractions created by the apps to the point that users don't think about where their files are at all. It's not how I want to operate either, but that's the direction Apple has been heading to for a long time

surreal 12y ago
Although they do seem to be backtracking on this stance with yesterday's iCloud Drive announcement [1], giving access to the filesystem they've been trying to hide away for the last few years [1] http://m.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apple-challenges-dropbox-and-google-drive-with-new-mail-and-icloud-features-1251505 http://m.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apple-chal...

oneeyedpigeon 12y ago

Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

gnaffle 12y ago
If you Mac loses power and doesn't get to do a normal shutdown, you're eventually going to get file system errors that you can only fix by booting from a recovery disk. I've had this happen numerous times due to a broken battery on my laptop. If you've never ever run a disk repair on your Mac, do one and you might be surprised. You should expect more from a filesystem in 2014.
Shivetya 12y ago
how about locking my entire system when it wakes externally connected USB drives, namely my time machine. Oddly it seems to occur while I surf. That and permissions seem to get screwy at times. I had a long running issue where I could not launch JAR files, found others with similar issues and finally figured out, I no longer had permission to my own user folder and the JAR I was launching needed to create a working directory. Ended up solving the problem for more than myself. I still try to figure out the desire for case sensitivity in about anything
archagon 12y ago
Man, I sure hope Apple's next FS keeps both of those features. I think most ordinary users find them very valuable.
orkoden 12y ago
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/
gsnedders 12y ago
There has been a case-sensitive variant of HFS+ supported for a decade now.