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If it's that bad, you need to take that as evidence that your attitudes of sex lead to problems, not the advice to have fun.

by indrax 12y ago

jacquesm 12y ago
Consider that he may just have had a streak of bad luck rather than to jump to conclusions. Life can be pretty harsh and if you're hit with a series of blows then it is natural to try to avoid further blows, it is way out of line to point to that as 'evidence' that you have an attitude problem. That's the sort of thing reserved for people who have never had a streak of bad luck, which is great but that does not mean it holds across the board. Shit really does happen, and some people have more of it in their lives than they deserve. Note that I'm explicitly not talking about myself here, but I have some examples in my circle of friends that have received a disproportionate amount of bad luck and I can see how it affects them. Some are lucky, some are unlucky, it can't be helped and is no proof of 'attitude' or anything like that without knowing a lot more about the individual.
- indrax 12y ago
  Evidence is not proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_under_Bayes_theorem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_under_Bayes_theorem It could be that none of his bad situation is the result of his preferences, but his situation shouldn't be ignored either. You have to be able to consider that you did something unwise in order to take hints from the environment.
nybblet 12y ago
throwaway2719's main point also seems to be that for some people, sex is not just fun and games, but entails some sort of emotional closeness. If your position is that you should just go have fun sex as you wish, then that seems completely fine as long as your partners are on board. Conversely, the logical extension is that you should be on board with your partners freely having fun sex, with whomever they desire.

4 ms·

If it's that bad, you need to take that as evidence that your attitudes of sex lead to problems, not the advice to have fun.

by indrax 12y ago

If it's that bad, you need to take that as evidence that your attitudes of sex lead to problems, not the advice to have fun.

jacquesm 12y ago
Consider that he may just have had a streak of bad luck rather than to jump to conclusions. Life can be pretty harsh and if you're hit with a series of blows then it is natural to try to avoid further blows, it is way out of line to point to that as 'evidence' that you have an attitude problem. That's the sort of thing reserved for people who have never had a streak of bad luck, which is great but that does not mean it holds across the board. Shit really does happen, and some people have more of it in their lives than they deserve. Note that I'm explicitly not talking about myself here, but I have some examples in my circle of friends that have received a disproportionate amount of bad luck and I can see how it affects them. Some are lucky, some are unlucky, it can't be helped and is no proof of 'attitude' or anything like that without knowing a lot more about the individual.
- indrax 12y ago
  Evidence is not proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_under_Bayes_theorem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_under_Bayes_theorem It could be that none of his bad situation is the result of his preferences, but his situation shouldn't be ignored either. You have to be able to consider that you did something unwise in order to take hints from the environment.
nybblet 12y ago
throwaway2719's main point also seems to be that for some people, sex is not just fun and games, but entails some sort of emotional closeness. If your position is that you should just go have fun sex as you wish, then that seems completely fine as long as your partners are on board. Conversely, the logical extension is that you should be on board with your partners freely having fun sex, with whomever they desire.