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As a senior developer you can get 75k fixed + 10k variable even in some of Berlin's start-ups, however you might get that easily in Hamburg, Munich, Ingolstadt

by bitL 12y ago

As a senior developer you can get 75k fixed + 10k variable even in some of Berlin's start-ups, however you might get that easily in Hamburg, Munich, Ingolstadt or Frankfurt. In Munich and Frankfurt you can get 110k + about the same variable if you work for one of the trading/ad companies (and have a stomach for it). The housing prices in Berlin are skyrocketing, approaching the other big German cities fast, so basically with 38k you would be quite close to poverty level if you have a family (though "poverty" in Germany is much gentler than in the US due to a lot of social support and welfare from the government, paid by high taxes).

monksy 12y ago
This was about 2011 when I got that offer. The housing prices were jumping up. The founder attempted to hedge my shock at the 38k e a year by claiming "housing is cheap." Nice try, I believe that he was talking about a wohingemeinung [sp], which I'm not doing if I'm relocating to Berlin. Also, they wouldn't offer a relo either. BTW My tax percentage was take home pay. [Mandatory health payment is included since it's mandatory]
thejdude 12y ago
Mind if I ask where you can get, say, 75k in Germany? I have >5 years experience, I'm consistently rated great by my bosses, but I have a hard time getting paid a good salary for it. Job offers are only by body-leasing companies, whereever I look (i.e. no "intern" positions). Is it only the really big players that pay 75k, where you have to deal with rigid corporate politics, suit-up dress code, and meetings instead of developing/architecting stuff? (Basically what I've been doing for years, but with low pay, and I don't really want to keep doing that; it hurts productivity, and it wastes my talent.) West-german city we're talking about, so location shouldn't be the problem.

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As a senior developer you can get 75k fixed + 10k variable even in some of Berlin's start-ups, however you might get that easily in Hamburg, Munich, Ingolstadt

by bitL 12y ago

monksy 12y ago
This was about 2011 when I got that offer. The housing prices were jumping up. The founder attempted to hedge my shock at the 38k e a year by claiming "housing is cheap." Nice try, I believe that he was talking about a wohingemeinung [sp], which I'm not doing if I'm relocating to Berlin. Also, they wouldn't offer a relo either. BTW My tax percentage was take home pay. [Mandatory health payment is included since it's mandatory]
thejdude 12y ago
Mind if I ask where you can get, say, 75k in Germany? I have >5 years experience, I'm consistently rated great by my bosses, but I have a hard time getting paid a good salary for it. Job offers are only by body-leasing companies, whereever I look (i.e. no "intern" positions). Is it only the really big players that pay 75k, where you have to deal with rigid corporate politics, suit-up dress code, and meetings instead of developing/architecting stuff? (Basically what I've been doing for years, but with low pay, and I don't really want to keep doing that; it hurts productivity, and it wastes my talent.) West-german city we're talking about, so location shouldn't be the problem.