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“You also don’t need to write semicolons at the end of every statement.” Please. Please. PLEASE don't be whitespace delimited!

by rqebmm 12y ago

gberger 12y ago
Ruby doesn't have neither semicolons nor whitespace syntax
- eric_h 12y ago
  actually, the rules are the same as swift. newline is the end of a statement, multiple statements on the same line require a semicolon.
- cheald 12y ago
  Ruby has both semicolon and newline statement termination. > x = 1; y = 2; z = x + y => 3
andybak 12y ago
Oh. I was rather hoping it would be! But still, there's not a lot to hate. It looks like a cleaner javascript at first glance. Not quite as pretty as Python but then, what is. :)
- patrickmay 12y ago
  Common Lisp.
- dom96 12y ago
  Try Nimrod: http://nimrod-lang.org http://nimrod-lang.org
tim333 12y ago
You're ok. It's {}
stcredzero 12y ago
Please. Please. PLEASE don't be whitespace delimited! One of the prime examples I give for how HN/reddit has gone downhill was being downvoted by some clueless hipsters for suggesting that it would be easy to cross-compile from a whitespace-delimited language to a non-whitespace-delimited one. It's not some kind of huge fundamental divide in languages. For any non-whitespace delimited context free language, it should be possible to write a homomorphic transformation to a whitespace delimited one. This is something that people should consider trivial and be beyond discussing.
- throwaway5752 12y ago
  Practically speaking I'd prefer to work with a language and toolchain that doesn't require me to do that kind of stuff (write my own cross compiler from a derivative of the language that has all my own preferences for syntax). I'd constantly worry about maintaining that piece and having that cut into my quality & productivity. I think applied language theory as it pertains to productivity is fair game for a good discussion. That said, whoever downvoted you for that reaffirms my belief that HN should have limited metamoderation with some kind of exponential backoff of mod privileges for egregiously poor moderation.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    "Clueless hipsters" will attract downvotes.
    - throwaway5752 12y ago
      I just wouldn't bother to downvote for such a minor, subjective tone issue. Anyway, sorry, I'll end it here. Don't want to detract from the Swift discussion. It makes me sad that companies are coming up with their own language stacks. Obviously Google vis a vis Oracle makes it a good move, if a company has the scale to accomplish and maintain it. Not to be a downer on what seems like a nice language, but other than that reason I see no need for Swift.
    - stcredzero 12y ago
      I didn't use that term until after the downvotes.

“You also don’t need to write semicolons at the end of every statement.” Please. Please. PLEASE don't be whitespace delimited!

by rqebmm 12y ago

“You also don’t need to write semicolons at the end of every statement.” Please. Please. PLEASE don't be whitespace delimited!

gberger 12y ago

Ruby doesn't have neither semicolons nor whitespace syntax

eric_h 12y ago
actually, the rules are the same as swift. newline is the end of a statement, multiple statements on the same line require a semicolon.
cheald 12y ago
Ruby has both semicolon and newline statement termination. > x = 1; y = 2; z = x + y => 3

andybak 12y ago

Oh. I was rather hoping it would be! But still, there's not a lot to hate. It looks like a cleaner javascript at first glance. Not quite as pretty as Python but then, what is. :)

patrickmay 12y ago
Common Lisp.
dom96 12y ago
Try Nimrod: http://nimrod-lang.org http://nimrod-lang.org

tim333 12y ago

You're ok. It's {}

stcredzero 12y ago

Please. Please. PLEASE don't be whitespace delimited! One of the prime examples I give for how HN/reddit has gone downhill was being downvoted by some clueless hipsters for suggesting that it would be easy to cross-compile from a whitespace-delimited language to a non-whitespace-delimited one. It's not some kind of huge fundamental divide in languages. For any non-whitespace delimited context free language, it should be possible to write a homomorphic transformation to a whitespace delimited one. This is something that people should consider trivial and be beyond discussing.

throwaway5752 12y ago
Practically speaking I'd prefer to work with a language and toolchain that doesn't require me to do that kind of stuff (write my own cross compiler from a derivative of the language that has all my own preferences for syntax). I'd constantly worry about maintaining that piece and having that cut into my quality & productivity. I think applied language theory as it pertains to productivity is fair game for a good discussion. That said, whoever downvoted you for that reaffirms my belief that HN should have limited metamoderation with some kind of exponential backoff of mod privileges for egregiously poor moderation.
- DanBC 12y ago
  "Clueless hipsters" will attract downvotes.
  - throwaway5752 12y ago
    I just wouldn't bother to downvote for such a minor, subjective tone issue. Anyway, sorry, I'll end it here. Don't want to detract from the Swift discussion. It makes me sad that companies are coming up with their own language stacks. Obviously Google vis a vis Oracle makes it a good move, if a company has the scale to accomplish and maintain it. Not to be a downer on what seems like a nice language, but other than that reason I see no need for Swift.
  - stcredzero 12y ago
    I didn't use that term until after the downvotes.