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Consistently sleeping 8 hours a night will do more for your brain than these chemicals. What a waste.

by maj0rhn 12y ago

sp332 12y ago
That's true, but irrelevant. If you're consistently getting enough sleep, these will still improve your cognition.
- maj0rhn 12y ago
  Prove it.
  - sp332 12y ago
    There are already 7 links to clinical studies on the FAQ page. https://nootrobox.com/faq https://nootrobox.com/faq
  - buckbova 12y ago
    There are multiple studies that show a link between caffeine with improved cognitive or physical performance. This has been proven.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    It is unfortunate that OPs name contains "woo" - a common term in sceptic community to describe things that are bunk. However, OPs site does contain links to abstracts for the extracts they're using, and OPs site seems to be calmer than similar nootropic websites.
- maj0rhn 12y ago
  Moreover, prove there is no harm from these chemicals. Good luck with that!
  - sp332 12y ago
    Even air and water can harm you, so that's an impossible bar to reach. If the costs and risks of a particular dose are worth it for someone, you can't say it's a waste.
    - maj0rhn 12y ago
      The reductio ad absurdum does not work here. You are advocating (or at least facilitating) that people put things into the their bodies, in the manner of pharmaceuticals, that would not otherwise go there. The responsibility is on you to prove it's ok. "First do no harm" -- this has been the credo of western medicine since 400 BC. You want people to ingest these substances without knowing the cost. Unethical.
      - sp332 12y ago
        Geez, did you lose the ability to use Google or something? L-theanine is naturally found in tea. If it caused health problems, tea drinkers would have noticed by now. To be specific, here is a list of reasons you might want to avoid L-theanine https://www.livestrong.com/article/109181-dangers-theanine/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/109181-dangers-theanine/ or bacopa monnieri https://www.livestrong.com/article/58203-side-effects-bacopa-monnieri/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/58203-side-effects-bacopa... Perhaps nootrobox should list these in their FAQ.
  - loganu 12y ago
    How about you prove that they are harmful? I'm happy to assume that some research was done, and that a handful of peer-reviewed studies suggest these nutrients have some positive effects (or at the very least are neutral and customers are paying for a placebo. That's okay too.) Saying "prove there's no harm" is like saying "prove pencils don't give people headaches" or "prove God doesn't exist." If you're on a mission to prove something, maybe start by refuting the information put into the FAQ regarding safety or the various studies that have been linked.

Consistently sleeping 8 hours a night will do more for your brain than these chemicals. What a waste.

by maj0rhn 12y ago

Consistently sleeping 8 hours a night will do more for your brain than these chemicals. What a waste.

sp332 12y ago

That's true, but irrelevant. If you're consistently getting enough sleep, these will still improve your cognition.

maj0rhn 12y ago
Prove it.
- sp332 12y ago
  There are already 7 links to clinical studies on the FAQ page. https://nootrobox.com/faq https://nootrobox.com/faq
- buckbova 12y ago
  There are multiple studies that show a link between caffeine with improved cognitive or physical performance. This has been proven.
- DanBC 12y ago
  It is unfortunate that OPs name contains "woo" - a common term in sceptic community to describe things that are bunk. However, OPs site does contain links to abstracts for the extracts they're using, and OPs site seems to be calmer than similar nootropic websites.
maj0rhn 12y ago
Moreover, prove there is no harm from these chemicals. Good luck with that!
- sp332 12y ago
  Even air and water can harm you, so that's an impossible bar to reach. If the costs and risks of a particular dose are worth it for someone, you can't say it's a waste.
  - maj0rhn 12y ago
    The reductio ad absurdum does not work here. You are advocating (or at least facilitating) that people put things into the their bodies, in the manner of pharmaceuticals, that would not otherwise go there. The responsibility is on you to prove it's ok. "First do no harm" -- this has been the credo of western medicine since 400 BC. You want people to ingest these substances without knowing the cost. Unethical.
    - sp332 12y ago
      Geez, did you lose the ability to use Google or something? L-theanine is naturally found in tea. If it caused health problems, tea drinkers would have noticed by now. To be specific, here is a list of reasons you might want to avoid L-theanine https://www.livestrong.com/article/109181-dangers-theanine/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/109181-dangers-theanine/ or bacopa monnieri https://www.livestrong.com/article/58203-side-effects-bacopa-monnieri/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/58203-side-effects-bacopa... Perhaps nootrobox should list these in their FAQ.
- loganu 12y ago
  How about you prove that they are harmful? I'm happy to assume that some research was done, and that a handful of peer-reviewed studies suggest these nutrients have some positive effects (or at the very least are neutral and customers are paying for a placebo. That's okay too.) Saying "prove there's no harm" is like saying "prove pencils don't give people headaches" or "prove God doesn't exist." If you're on a mission to prove something, maybe start by refuting the information put into the FAQ regarding safety or the various studies that have been linked.