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Apple WWDC 2014 Live Streaming

77 points by qnk 12y ago

Ashan 12y ago
You'll need to use an Apple device to view this stream. -iOS 4.2+ -Safari on OSX -Apple TV
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- scragg 12y ago
  Is there a stream for Linux users? (without vm)
  - mhurron 12y ago
    You could use a liveblog like every other year.
  - josso 12y ago
    I've got it working by downloading the referenced mov-file, with the QuickTime UserAgent, and opening it in VLC: $ curl -A QuickTime/7.6.2 -O http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/refs/14pijbefvoihbfva6_sl_ref.mov
- yror10 12y ago
  I'm certain there will be people on UStream and livestream doing mirrors.
- e1ven 12y ago
  Off topic, but your post tweaked my brain's processing. I read those not as bullet points, but as a boolean search. "It needs to be an Apple device, but not iOS, not Safari on OSX, and not an Apple TV." I was trying to figure out what Apple Devices were left for a second before it clicked ;)
- bthrn 12y ago
  In the past I've been able to get around this requirement by getting the stream directly. If today's anything like previous events, should be able to use these URLs to open in VLC (the URLs will change when the stream goes live): http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/js_files/event/url.js http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...
- nhangen 12y ago
  Apple fan here, but this doesn't make sense at all. Foolish and arrogant.
  - danford 12y ago
    Same here. I'm doing some iOS development on Ubuntu right now because I was having issues with my new monitor in OS X. Guess I gotta reboot into the OS X partition and take a break from having my new monitor. But hey, it's nice to sit on the couch.
- chrismbarr 12y ago
  If you are using Chrome press F12 to open the devtools. Then press Esc and to to the "Emulation" tab. now choose an iPad or something and spoof your user agent as that. it's dumb, but i think that should work. You will need to have QuickTime installed though, I don't think there's a way around that.
- sidcool 12y ago
  Yes, this upsets me a bit. I like to watch live product announcements.
- sirtel 12y ago
  Or there are some live talkings http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte
  - coder23 12y ago
    Is that a thing; people talking over the presentation?
- sbussard 12y ago
  Apple does user agent sniffing? Is Safari becoming the next IE?
polskibus 12y ago
Discrimination for real. what's next ? Google banning safari browser from accessing search?
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  It probably cuts down on the number of people that can stream it making it less expensive for Apple and the stream more stable. And at the end of the day it's an Apple developer conference - Apple developers typical have Apple hardware which this can be viewed on.
  - dman 12y ago
    What about freebsd and clang developers whose work gets used prominently in apple products but who dont own apple hardware.
    - tptacek 12y ago
      Isn't clang more or less an Apple-funded project? I also thought the guy who was principally responsible for LLVM was an Apple engineer.
      - pcwalton 12y ago
        Yes, Chris Lattner is a tech lead at Apple.
- danielrhodes 12y ago
  Google benefits from everybody using the web. Apple benefits when people use their ecosystem. Thus Apple restricting the webcast to Safari makes sense, and Google not limiting access to just Chrome does not make sense.
ultimoo 12y ago
I usually glance at the Techcrunch live blog[1] every 10-15 minutes for WWDC keynotes. Since it is a text-stream (with a few photos), it's helpful if you don't have an apple device to view the stream or are busy with office work or meetings to watch the live video stream. [1] http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-wwdc-2014-keynote-live-blog/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-wwdc-2014-keynote-liv...
- chrisBob 12y ago
  Macrumors usually does ok, and has a nice auto-refresh feature that I leave running http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/02/wwdc-2014-keynote-live/ http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/02/wwdc-2014-keynote-live/
  - acomjean 12y ago
    thanks, I like some of the commentary on this feed: 11:45 am Swift. 11:45 am Crowd goes "Whaaaaat?" 11:45 am New programming language.
- devindotcom 12y ago
  Too bad greg's not there, though. He's the best liveblogger ever.
- smackfu 12y ago
  The video is actually about 35 seconds behind the text live streams too.
higherpurpose 12y ago
Chrome doesn't load the page, and in Firefox it still asks for QuickTime. Come on, Apple. It's 2014, and you're still using plugins for video! I thought you were all for "HTML5 video" - unless it doesn't suit you, apparently.
moinnadeem 12y ago
Windows users: download this, open it with VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/refs/14pijbefvoihbfva6_sl_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...
- bthrn 12y ago
  Here's the network stream link so you don't have to download the file: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/m3u8/sl_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...
diegolo 12y ago
the audience seems composed only by men :)
donaldguy 12y ago
This already said below, but in clearer terms: Will NOT load on Chrome on Mac currently Will load in Safari.
grecy 12y ago
This is working perfectly for me on windows: http://www.twitch.tv/applekeynote http://www.twitch.tv/applekeynote No commentary or anything
- coder23 12y ago
  How did you find this; my google skills failed me.
  - grecy 12y ago
    It was in a reddit thread.... (sorry, no skills here either)
- sidcool 12y ago
  Thanks. I can't thank you enough.
  - grecy 12y ago
    You're welcome :) I watch the keynotes at work (on Windows) so I always spend the first 5-10 minutes scrambling around looking for a live stream that actually works. This is probably the best one I've found. No stuttering, no commentary, etc.
    - sidcool 12y ago
      It's absolutely smooth. Very good quality. Thanks again.
optimusclimb 12y ago
That video really helped let us know how much Apple cares about its developer community Tim...except your responses to bug reports or pretty much any developer interaction...don't.
frik 12y ago
OSX Yosemite
mmastrac 12y ago
Does this mean that Apple will be sending all my spotlight keystrokes to the cloud (ie: to Apple/Bing for live results)? Hrm.
- dmix 12y ago
  Apple must have been inspired by Ubuntu's "built in spyware". Their search box also sends queries to the cloud by default. Richard Stallman must be thrilled: http://www.zdnet.com/free-software-father-declared-ubuntu-linux-to-contain-spyware-7000008516/ http://www.zdnet.com/free-software-father-declared-ubuntu-li...
  - danford 12y ago
    Don't know why you're framing Ubuntu in a bad light. Windows does something similar with Bing. It's pretty easy to turn it off on ubuntu, will Apple allow you to do the same?
- Pwntastic 12y ago
  And also your text messages and phone calls!
sz4kerto 12y ago
If I were Dropbox I'd be really worrying now. All of the big 3 has it's well-integrated cloud storage -- so far Dropbox was the de-facto cloud storage for Apple users. Now what?
- kunstmord 12y ago
  Except that DropBox is still cheaper, has a good app, stores file revision history, syncs across various operating systems. Dropbox always seemed to me to be a bit more sophisticated product than just "I want a backup in the Cloud" type thing, and I doubt anyone who's using it more than just a simple one-computer/one-OS backup system will leave. And I guess it gets most of its revenue from business accounts anyway?
- Udo 12y ago
  It's true, to some degree they should be worried. However, I'm not sure how much they actually have to fear. While I do like the new Continuity features (and I'm somewhat of a cloud skeptic), I don't see myself sharing files over iCloud with my friends anytime soon. Another thing that strikes me is, while I do use Dropbox a lot to sync across my devices, and those devices are almost always Macs, I'm also a toxic Dropbox user. Dropbox should not want to keep me as a "customer": I'm on the free plan, totally maxed out storage space by taking part in every conceivable promo, relatively high bandwidth usage, across a lot of devices. There is no possible reason for Dropbox to want me continue using them.
frik 12y ago
WebGL on Safari for OX Yosemite, yeah ... hopefully for iOSX 8 too
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
dmunoz 12y ago
How is an attachment meaningfully encrypted through iCloud if someone who isn't using a Mac can download the file through a link in the email they receive? If that link can be generated for them, it can be generated for anyone. Edit: Even if a link is generated client side along with an access key, it's sent plain text and anyone who sees it can click it.
- Udo 12y ago
  I'd imagine these users will have to go through a process that proves they don't just have the link but can also access the email account in question. Just like email subscription confirmations work.
juvoni 12y ago
I'm seeing a trend of a lot of 3rd party app that filled functionality gaps in OS X Mavericks are being integrated natively into OSX Yosemite. Observant HNers lets start a running list of OSX Yosemite Feature => 3rd Party App / Feature
darkhorn 12y ago
What is new in iOS8 iSkype, iPaint, iChina, iApplause.
falcolas 12y ago
Ouch. Big blow to OpenGL by Metal. It's iOS hardware (A7) specific.

77 points by qnk 12y ago

Ashan 12y ago

You'll need to use an Apple device to view this stream. -iOS 4.2+ -Safari on OSX -Apple TV

deleted 12y ago
[deleted]
scragg 12y ago
Is there a stream for Linux users? (without vm)
- mhurron 12y ago
  You could use a liveblog like every other year.
- josso 12y ago
  I've got it working by downloading the referenced mov-file, with the QuickTime UserAgent, and opening it in VLC: $ curl -A QuickTime/7.6.2 -O http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/refs/14pijbefvoihbfva6_sl_ref.mov
yror10 12y ago
I'm certain there will be people on UStream and livestream doing mirrors.
e1ven 12y ago
Off topic, but your post tweaked my brain's processing. I read those not as bullet points, but as a boolean search. "It needs to be an Apple device, but not iOS, not Safari on OSX, and not an Apple TV." I was trying to figure out what Apple Devices were left for a second before it clicked ;)
bthrn 12y ago
In the past I've been able to get around this requirement by getting the stream directly. If today's anything like previous events, should be able to use these URLs to open in VLC (the URLs will change when the stream goes live): http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/js_files/event/url.js http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...
nhangen 12y ago
Apple fan here, but this doesn't make sense at all. Foolish and arrogant.
- danford 12y ago
  Same here. I'm doing some iOS development on Ubuntu right now because I was having issues with my new monitor in OS X. Guess I gotta reboot into the OS X partition and take a break from having my new monitor. But hey, it's nice to sit on the couch.
chrismbarr 12y ago
If you are using Chrome press F12 to open the devtools. Then press Esc and to to the "Emulation" tab. now choose an iPad or something and spoof your user agent as that. it's dumb, but i think that should work. You will need to have QuickTime installed though, I don't think there's a way around that.
sidcool 12y ago
Yes, this upsets me a bit. I like to watch live product announcements.
sirtel 12y ago
Or there are some live talkings http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte
- coder23 12y ago
  Is that a thing; people talking over the presentation?
sbussard 12y ago
Apple does user agent sniffing? Is Safari becoming the next IE?

polskibus 12y ago

Discrimination for real. what's next ? Google banning safari browser from accessing search?

k-mcgrady 12y ago
It probably cuts down on the number of people that can stream it making it less expensive for Apple and the stream more stable. And at the end of the day it's an Apple developer conference - Apple developers typical have Apple hardware which this can be viewed on.
- dman 12y ago
  What about freebsd and clang developers whose work gets used prominently in apple products but who dont own apple hardware.
  - tptacek 12y ago
    Isn't clang more or less an Apple-funded project? I also thought the guy who was principally responsible for LLVM was an Apple engineer.
    - pcwalton 12y ago
      Yes, Chris Lattner is a tech lead at Apple.
danielrhodes 12y ago
Google benefits from everybody using the web. Apple benefits when people use their ecosystem. Thus Apple restricting the webcast to Safari makes sense, and Google not limiting access to just Chrome does not make sense.

ultimoo 12y ago

I usually glance at the Techcrunch live blog[1] every 10-15 minutes for WWDC keynotes. Since it is a text-stream (with a few photos), it's helpful if you don't have an apple device to view the stream or are busy with office work or meetings to watch the live video stream. [1] http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-wwdc-2014-keynote-live-blog/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-wwdc-2014-keynote-liv...

chrisBob 12y ago
Macrumors usually does ok, and has a nice auto-refresh feature that I leave running http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/02/wwdc-2014-keynote-live/ http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/02/wwdc-2014-keynote-live/
- acomjean 12y ago
  thanks, I like some of the commentary on this feed: 11:45 am Swift. 11:45 am Crowd goes "Whaaaaat?" 11:45 am New programming language.
devindotcom 12y ago
Too bad greg's not there, though. He's the best liveblogger ever.
smackfu 12y ago
The video is actually about 35 seconds behind the text live streams too.

higherpurpose 12y ago

Chrome doesn't load the page, and in Firefox it still asks for QuickTime. Come on, Apple. It's 2014, and you're still using plugins for video! I thought you were all for "HTML5 video" - unless it doesn't suit you, apparently.

moinnadeem 12y ago

Windows users: download this, open it with VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/refs/14pijbefvoihbfva6_sl_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...

bthrn 12y ago
Here's the network stream link so you don't have to download the file: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaeporfnsvpobjuanefvpjb6a/m3u8/sl_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14poiunaepo...

diegolo 12y ago

the audience seems composed only by men :)

donaldguy 12y ago

This already said below, but in clearer terms: Will NOT load on Chrome on Mac currently Will load in Safari.

grecy 12y ago

This is working perfectly for me on windows: http://www.twitch.tv/applekeynote http://www.twitch.tv/applekeynote No commentary or anything

coder23 12y ago
How did you find this; my google skills failed me.
- grecy 12y ago
  It was in a reddit thread.... (sorry, no skills here either)
sidcool 12y ago
Thanks. I can't thank you enough.
- grecy 12y ago
  You're welcome :) I watch the keynotes at work (on Windows) so I always spend the first 5-10 minutes scrambling around looking for a live stream that actually works. This is probably the best one I've found. No stuttering, no commentary, etc.
  - sidcool 12y ago
    It's absolutely smooth. Very good quality. Thanks again.

optimusclimb 12y ago

That video really helped let us know how much Apple cares about its developer community Tim...except your responses to bug reports or pretty much any developer interaction...don't.

frik 12y ago

OSX Yosemite

mmastrac 12y ago

Does this mean that Apple will be sending all my spotlight keystrokes to the cloud (ie: to Apple/Bing for live results)? Hrm.

dmix 12y ago
Apple must have been inspired by Ubuntu's "built in spyware". Their search box also sends queries to the cloud by default. Richard Stallman must be thrilled: http://www.zdnet.com/free-software-father-declared-ubuntu-linux-to-contain-spyware-7000008516/ http://www.zdnet.com/free-software-father-declared-ubuntu-li...
- danford 12y ago
  Don't know why you're framing Ubuntu in a bad light. Windows does something similar with Bing. It's pretty easy to turn it off on ubuntu, will Apple allow you to do the same?
Pwntastic 12y ago
And also your text messages and phone calls!

sz4kerto 12y ago

If I were Dropbox I'd be really worrying now. All of the big 3 has it's well-integrated cloud storage -- so far Dropbox was the de-facto cloud storage for Apple users. Now what?

kunstmord 12y ago
Except that DropBox is still cheaper, has a good app, stores file revision history, syncs across various operating systems. Dropbox always seemed to me to be a bit more sophisticated product than just "I want a backup in the Cloud" type thing, and I doubt anyone who's using it more than just a simple one-computer/one-OS backup system will leave. And I guess it gets most of its revenue from business accounts anyway?
Udo 12y ago
It's true, to some degree they should be worried. However, I'm not sure how much they actually have to fear. While I do like the new Continuity features (and I'm somewhat of a cloud skeptic), I don't see myself sharing files over iCloud with my friends anytime soon. Another thing that strikes me is, while I do use Dropbox a lot to sync across my devices, and those devices are almost always Macs, I'm also a toxic Dropbox user. Dropbox should not want to keep me as a "customer": I'm on the free plan, totally maxed out storage space by taking part in every conceivable promo, relatively high bandwidth usage, across a lot of devices. There is no possible reason for Dropbox to want me continue using them.

frik 12y ago

WebGL on Safari for OX Yosemite, yeah ... hopefully for iOSX 8 too

deleted 12y ago
[deleted]

dmunoz 12y ago

How is an attachment meaningfully encrypted through iCloud if someone who isn't using a Mac can download the file through a link in the email they receive? If that link can be generated for them, it can be generated for anyone. Edit: Even if a link is generated client side along with an access key, it's sent plain text and anyone who sees it can click it.

Udo 12y ago
I'd imagine these users will have to go through a process that proves they don't just have the link but can also access the email account in question. Just like email subscription confirmations work.

juvoni 12y ago

I'm seeing a trend of a lot of 3rd party app that filled functionality gaps in OS X Mavericks are being integrated natively into OSX Yosemite. Observant HNers lets start a running list of OSX Yosemite Feature => 3rd Party App / Feature

darkhorn 12y ago

What is new in iOS8 iSkype, iPaint, iChina, iApplause.

falcolas 12y ago

Ouch. Big blow to OpenGL by Metal. It's iOS hardware (A7) specific.