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I had* an IPv6 tunnel for about a year and only a few months ago I turned off IPv4 to see how far we've come. Practically everything broke. Nearly all websites

by ancarda 12y ago

I had* an IPv6 tunnel for about a year and only a few months ago I turned off IPv4 to see how far we've come. Practically everything broke. Nearly all websites I use on a daily basis didn't work. The frustrating thing is a lot of programs broke as well, usually because of a single weak link; e.g. Bitcoin failed to bootstrap, Bittorrent couldn't reach most trackers. etc... however I'd regularly see IPv6 traffic in Little Snitch so these programs did support IPv6, it's just whatever they use for bootstrapping didn't. My experience was a lot of websites/programs have partial support but usually a key component isn't dual stacked which breaks the whole thing. For instance, despite the fact my router has built-in IPv6 tunnelling, I can't manage the admin interface over IPv6. * Me disabling my IPv6 tunnel wasn't related to this, it was extremely unstable; it dropped at-least once a week which was quite disruptive. If anyone can recommend a tunnel provider other than SixXS, I'll participate on the 6th.

josteink 12y ago
Me disabling my IPv6 tunnel wasn't related to this, it was extremely unstable; it dropped at-least once a week which was quite disruptive. If anyone can recommend a tunnel provider other than SixXS, I'll participate on the 6th. Pardon my french, but in 2014 there should be no fucking need for you to tunnel. While IPv6-day in 2013 was about showing how IPv6 isn't "scary" and that enabling it wont cause havoc around the internets, like lots of site-admins irrationally feared, I think the main point this year is highlighting and shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together. If you need to tunnel to "participate" in this years event, your ISP is the target. Go ask for native IPv6. Edit: Other people in this thread seem to say otherwise. Anyway: How can you disable IPv4 when your tunnelled IPv6-connection relies on it?
- Excavator 12y ago
  I think the main point this year is highlighting and shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together. Wikipedia has a nice list¹ that can be used for this. Go ask for native IPv6. Sadly my broadband provider, Telia, is one of those nice old telecom companies who're still living in the stone age. Can't switch over to anything else either as my lessor has a monopoly agreement with them. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment
- ancarda 12y ago
  My ISP (BT) has a full IPv6 implementation but it's not targeted at home users right now. I'll try contacting their customer support to ask about rollout plans but frankly, I don't think I'll get anywhere. Personally, I think the point of IPv6 day was to provide people with something to access over IPv6. I got a tunnel after IPv6 day but I think I only used it on Google. How can you disable IPv4 when your tunnelled IPv6-connection relies on it? For me I was able to disable IPv4 as my router did the tunnelling for me, however I feel this article is primarily targeting those with native IPv6.
- drchaos 12y ago
  > shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together Deutsche Telekom: requires customers to switch to a new contract (with worse conditions) in order to get a native v6 prefix Kabel BW: requires customers to give up their routable v4 address if they want to get v6, as they only offer DS-lite, no real dual-stack.
drchaos 12y ago
> If anyone can recommend a tunnel provider other than SixXS he.net just works, using this for 6 months now, did not notice a single outage. SixXS is an unprofessional kindergarden, I would not recommend using them for anything relevant.
jgeorge 12y ago
I've had very good success with an he.net tunnel. And for those saying "in 2014 there should be no need for a &%%^ IPv6 tunnel", congratulations on living in the big city. For rural Internet (blazing 6mpbs here!) IPv6 is as far down the priority list as it could possibly get. Asking (as a consumer) doesn't do any good, I'm probably the only person demanding IPv6 for 50 miles in any direction. They're not likely to make the expenditure just for li'l ol' me.

by ancarda 12y ago

josteink 12y ago

Me disabling my IPv6 tunnel wasn't related to this, it was extremely unstable; it dropped at-least once a week which was quite disruptive. If anyone can recommend a tunnel provider other than SixXS, I'll participate on the 6th. Pardon my french, but in 2014 there should be no fucking need for you to tunnel. While IPv6-day in 2013 was about showing how IPv6 isn't "scary" and that enabling it wont cause havoc around the internets, like lots of site-admins irrationally feared, I think the main point this year is highlighting and shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together. If you need to tunnel to "participate" in this years event, your ISP is the target. Go ask for native IPv6. Edit: Other people in this thread seem to say otherwise. Anyway: How can you disable IPv4 when your tunnelled IPv6-connection relies on it?

Excavator 12y ago
I think the main point this year is highlighting and shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together. Wikipedia has a nice list¹ that can be used for this. Go ask for native IPv6. Sadly my broadband provider, Telia, is one of those nice old telecom companies who're still living in the stone age. Can't switch over to anything else either as my lessor has a monopoly agreement with them. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment
ancarda 12y ago
My ISP (BT) has a full IPv6 implementation but it's not targeted at home users right now. I'll try contacting their customer support to ask about rollout plans but frankly, I don't think I'll get anywhere. Personally, I think the point of IPv6 day was to provide people with something to access over IPv6. I got a tunnel after IPv6 day but I think I only used it on Google. How can you disable IPv4 when your tunnelled IPv6-connection relies on it? For me I was able to disable IPv4 as my router did the tunnelling for me, however I feel this article is primarily targeting those with native IPv6.
drchaos 12y ago
> shaming ISP which still haven't gotten their act together Deutsche Telekom: requires customers to switch to a new contract (with worse conditions) in order to get a native v6 prefix Kabel BW: requires customers to give up their routable v4 address if they want to get v6, as they only offer DS-lite, no real dual-stack.

drchaos 12y ago

> If anyone can recommend a tunnel provider other than SixXS he.net just works, using this for 6 months now, did not notice a single outage. SixXS is an unprofessional kindergarden, I would not recommend using them for anything relevant.

jgeorge 12y ago

I've had very good success with an he.net tunnel. And for those saying "in 2014 there should be no need for a &%%^ IPv6 tunnel", congratulations on living in the big city. For rural Internet (blazing 6mpbs here!) IPv6 is as far down the priority list as it could possibly get. Asking (as a consumer) doesn't do any good, I'm probably the only person demanding IPv6 for 50 miles in any direction. They're not likely to make the expenditure just for li'l ol' me.