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The problem with this is we've got a bunch of 50+ year olds who don't really understand that they are basically handing over the ability to observe every aspect

The problem with this is we've got a bunch of 50+ year olds who don't really understand that they are basically handing over the ability to observe every aspect of our lives, in a cost effective manner by state and federal standards, even if we are not suspects. And guess what? Even if you have strong regulations, they'll close ranks and cover up for each other. That factor will lead to cameras mounted the officers body, but does anyone here really believe those tapes wouldn't get 'erased' and/or end up being protected by 'national security' with no real fact checking by the courts at this juncture? I think the next 20-30 years are going to be a real problem until people who understand exactly how much power we are handing over get into power and make it stop. Until there is a major generational change to the Supreme Court, Congress, and the Presidency...I don't see 'more regulation' actually doing us any good because it'll get ignored when its convenient. I think everyone under 35 needs to band together and say we won't sell out. :/

hyperbovine 12y ago
I assume this is exactly what said 50+ year olds were thinking about their elders circa 1970. "Generational change" is not the panacea it appears to be while in your 20s.
- opendais 12y ago
  There are many things that were worse in the 70s [bigotry; racism; martial rape wasn't illegal in all states until something like 1993; etc]. The surveillance aspect was only 'less bad' because it wasn't financially feasible due to the tech at the time. So yes, I'd say the 'big issues' of the 70s were partially fixed by generational change. The generational change from that generation did have effects, it didn't solve everything. It never does. However, if you have a better plan that will have actual results, feel free to publicize and encourage people to follow it. :)
  - lovemenot 12y ago
    This time around, the issues are more subtle. Effective solutions will be privacy enhancing technologies adopted by individuals in a free market, rather than politics and movements, which are too blunt of an instrument. I believe, the ANC welcomed white activists and we should be careful not to alienate like-thinking people of any sort. On the false-positive side, youth can sometimes be callow and too easily persuaded to jump on the wrong bandwagon.(lovemenot aged 49.5)
    - opendais 12y ago
      That could be. I'm just not convinced any 'free market solution' will survive government 'intervention'.
jonathankoren 12y ago
50+ years olds? <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/01/average_age_of_members_of_u_s_congress_are_our_senators_and_representatives.html">Try http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/20... 60+ year olds</a>, with a turnover rate that is unfavorably compared to the old Soviet Politburo.
- opendais 12y ago
  The article says the average age in the House of Representatives is 57. So I'm not really sure what the point of your post is?

hyperbovine 12y ago

I assume this is exactly what said 50+ year olds were thinking about their elders circa 1970. "Generational change" is not the panacea it appears to be while in your 20s.

opendais 12y ago
There are many things that were worse in the 70s [bigotry; racism; martial rape wasn't illegal in all states until something like 1993; etc]. The surveillance aspect was only 'less bad' because it wasn't financially feasible due to the tech at the time. So yes, I'd say the 'big issues' of the 70s were partially fixed by generational change. The generational change from that generation did have effects, it didn't solve everything. It never does. However, if you have a better plan that will have actual results, feel free to publicize and encourage people to follow it. :)
- lovemenot 12y ago
  This time around, the issues are more subtle. Effective solutions will be privacy enhancing technologies adopted by individuals in a free market, rather than politics and movements, which are too blunt of an instrument. I believe, the ANC welcomed white activists and we should be careful not to alienate like-thinking people of any sort. On the false-positive side, youth can sometimes be callow and too easily persuaded to jump on the wrong bandwagon.(lovemenot aged 49.5)
  - opendais 12y ago
    That could be. I'm just not convinced any 'free market solution' will survive government 'intervention'.

jonathankoren 12y ago

50+ years olds? <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/01/average_age_of_members_of_u_s_congress_are_our_senators_and_representatives.html">Try http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/20... 60+ year olds</a>, with a turnover rate that is unfavorably compared to the old Soviet Politburo.

opendais 12y ago
The article says the average age in the House of Representatives is 57. So I'm not really sure what the point of your post is?