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Linux Mint 17 “Qiana” Cinnamon released

95 points by Akhilan 12y ago

Tolbiac-110 12y ago
I just installed the Release Candidate earlier this month. Simple but Useful changes as far as I can see.
tgb 12y ago
The release candidate or something had a note that it wasn't compatible yet with NVidia Optimus cards. I no longer see a note about that - does anyone know if it's been fixed? I had some problems with that when I installed Mint last time.
bronson 12y ago
Finally the Apple Magic Trackpad works everywhere. Even offers battery warnings. Nice! Mint+Cinnamon is a great desktop. It's saving me from being 100% Mac.
- plg 12y ago
  "Finally the Apple Magic Trackpad works everywhere." Is this solution something mint-specific? e.g. can I install whatever makes this possible on an Ubuntu or Debian distro?
  - bronson 12y ago
    Haven't tried those distros. (my distro hopping days are OVER) Before Qiana, Nemo (Mint's forked Nautilus), Cinnamon's prefs panels, some 3rd party toolkits, they all got scrolling wrong. Lots of apps got it right too, but enough was wrong that the trackpad was pretty irritating to use. Now, in Qiana, everything seems to work. (well, the physics aren't there, like flinging to scroll feels pretty dead, but it's not bad) Based on that, I'd guess that Ubuntu Trusty would work great, likely Fedora 20 too. Guessing no for Debian stable or testing, but maybe unstable would be good. Ah, the benefits of choice...
lucb1e 12y ago
The most interesting bits are at the bottom of the release page: > Linux Mint 17 will receive security updates until 2019. > Until 2016, future versions of Linux Mint will use the same package base as Linux Mint 17, making it trivial for people to upgrade. > Until 2016, the development team won't start working on a new base and will be fully focused on this one. http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon_whatsnew.php http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon_whatsnew.php
general_failure 12y ago
Blog is down. EDIT: It's back up now
intull 12y ago
There's also the mate version - http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2627 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2627
- c_h0use 12y ago
  I hope they fixed some tiny theming issues that bothered me, as I would like to use Mate over Cinnamon this time.
- jnbiche 12y ago
  Mate is an extremely solid desktop environment. So glad that someone saved all the work that went into Gnome2. It's fast and familiar, and that's all I need.
- drdeadringer 12y ago
  Which is the one I went for :D
elinchrome 12y ago
How do I update from 16? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
- yulaow 12y ago
  Does linux mint allow to upgrade directly in that way? I remember that older version would suggest to reinstall the os and strongly discourage a dist-upgrade. At the time that was the only reason I avoided mint
  - mutagen 12y ago
    The documentation still discourages a dist-upgrade but at least includes it as an option. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2 http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2
  - hollerith 12y ago
    >that was the only reason I avoided mint Huh. I would consider it a good sign, a sign that the designers of Mint care about reliability and know how to achieve it even though they probably have fewer developer-hours to devote to a new release than the big distros have.
    - bronson 12y ago
      Not sure I agree. I changed /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list to use qiana and trusty (coming from petra), fired off apt-get update and dist-upgrade, hit "Y" every time it asked if a config file should be replaced, and ended up with a great system. It just doesn't seem like a very hard problem to solve. And, despite what the Mint guys claim, Ubuntu appears to have solved it just fine. EDIT: upgraded from petra, not olivia
      - nknighthb 12y ago
        You have confused luck in following an unsupported set of steps for your particular configuration and set of installed packages with a solution to the general problem. There was no guarantee your system would continue to function, nor is there any guarantee that your system is not now broken in a subtle, yet-unnoticed way, nor is there any guarantee that your process will work for anyone else, nor that it will work for future releases. This is the same mindset that blows up production systems with ad-hoc maladministration instead of following sound, documented procedures created with the input of people who actually understand the system and thoroughly tested in advance.
agumonkey 12y ago
Following Mint since version 10, I always fallback on Mint 11 (XFCE) since it's the lightest non-obsolete version I can run on my old thinkpads (x40, x60). More recent versions were often quite slower, this one (MATE desktop) is by far the slickest I've seen so far. The GUI has close to zero latency. Kudos.
- pling 12y ago
  I'm using Debian 7 and XFCE. It's pretty much the same regarding UI latency. And everything works on my T400 out of the box. Never been happier. I've just migrated from Windows 7 (today after clinging on for about 3 years) and it's refreshingly good.
  - agumonkey 12y ago
    I expect almost anything to run blink fast on a T400 though (far better hardware, far better driver support).
    - pling 12y ago
      The hardware is not that great. It's got switchable graphics so I've had to disable the Radeon portion and stick with Intel graphics. Managed with powertop to get 10.9W of power usage and 4.5 hours of battery. Not bad for a 5 year old machine with a 5 year old battery.

95 points by Akhilan 12y ago

I just installed the Release Candidate earlier this month. Simple but Useful changes as far as I can see.

tgb 12y ago

The release candidate or something had a note that it wasn't compatible yet with NVidia Optimus cards. I no longer see a note about that - does anyone know if it's been fixed? I had some problems with that when I installed Mint last time.

bronson 12y ago

Finally the Apple Magic Trackpad works everywhere. Even offers battery warnings. Nice! Mint+Cinnamon is a great desktop. It's saving me from being 100% Mac.

plg 12y ago
"Finally the Apple Magic Trackpad works everywhere." Is this solution something mint-specific? e.g. can I install whatever makes this possible on an Ubuntu or Debian distro?
- bronson 12y ago
  Haven't tried those distros. (my distro hopping days are OVER) Before Qiana, Nemo (Mint's forked Nautilus), Cinnamon's prefs panels, some 3rd party toolkits, they all got scrolling wrong. Lots of apps got it right too, but enough was wrong that the trackpad was pretty irritating to use. Now, in Qiana, everything seems to work. (well, the physics aren't there, like flinging to scroll feels pretty dead, but it's not bad) Based on that, I'd guess that Ubuntu Trusty would work great, likely Fedora 20 too. Guessing no for Debian stable or testing, but maybe unstable would be good. Ah, the benefits of choice...

lucb1e 12y ago

The most interesting bits are at the bottom of the release page: > Linux Mint 17 will receive security updates until 2019. > Until 2016, future versions of Linux Mint will use the same package base as Linux Mint 17, making it trivial for people to upgrade. > Until 2016, the development team won't start working on a new base and will be fully focused on this one. http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon_whatsnew.php http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon_whatsnew.php

general_failure 12y ago

Blog is down. EDIT: It's back up now

intull 12y ago

There's also the mate version - http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2627 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2627

c_h0use 12y ago
I hope they fixed some tiny theming issues that bothered me, as I would like to use Mate over Cinnamon this time.
jnbiche 12y ago
Mate is an extremely solid desktop environment. So glad that someone saved all the work that went into Gnome2. It's fast and familiar, and that's all I need.
drdeadringer 12y ago
Which is the one I went for :D

elinchrome 12y ago

How do I update from 16? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?

yulaow 12y ago
Does linux mint allow to upgrade directly in that way? I remember that older version would suggest to reinstall the os and strongly discourage a dist-upgrade. At the time that was the only reason I avoided mint
- mutagen 12y ago
  The documentation still discourages a dist-upgrade but at least includes it as an option. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2 http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2
- hollerith 12y ago
  >that was the only reason I avoided mint Huh. I would consider it a good sign, a sign that the designers of Mint care about reliability and know how to achieve it even though they probably have fewer developer-hours to devote to a new release than the big distros have.
  - bronson 12y ago
    Not sure I agree. I changed /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list to use qiana and trusty (coming from petra), fired off apt-get update and dist-upgrade, hit "Y" every time it asked if a config file should be replaced, and ended up with a great system. It just doesn't seem like a very hard problem to solve. And, despite what the Mint guys claim, Ubuntu appears to have solved it just fine. EDIT: upgraded from petra, not olivia
    - nknighthb 12y ago
      You have confused luck in following an unsupported set of steps for your particular configuration and set of installed packages with a solution to the general problem. There was no guarantee your system would continue to function, nor is there any guarantee that your system is not now broken in a subtle, yet-unnoticed way, nor is there any guarantee that your process will work for anyone else, nor that it will work for future releases. This is the same mindset that blows up production systems with ad-hoc maladministration instead of following sound, documented procedures created with the input of people who actually understand the system and thoroughly tested in advance.

agumonkey 12y ago

Following Mint since version 10, I always fallback on Mint 11 (XFCE) since it's the lightest non-obsolete version I can run on my old thinkpads (x40, x60). More recent versions were often quite slower, this one (MATE desktop) is by far the slickest I've seen so far. The GUI has close to zero latency. Kudos.

pling 12y ago
I'm using Debian 7 and XFCE. It's pretty much the same regarding UI latency. And everything works on my T400 out of the box. Never been happier. I've just migrated from Windows 7 (today after clinging on for about 3 years) and it's refreshingly good.
- agumonkey 12y ago
  I expect almost anything to run blink fast on a T400 though (far better hardware, far better driver support).
  - pling 12y ago
    The hardware is not that great. It's got switchable graphics so I've had to disable the Radeon portion and stick with Intel graphics. Managed with powertop to get 10.9W of power usage and 4.5 hours of battery. Not bad for a 5 year old machine with a 5 year old battery.