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There's a difference between taking advantage of a bargain and being a glutton. 83 segments in 30 days just to see how many you can do? Sounds foolish and sel

by edw519 17y ago

There's a difference between taking advantage of a bargain and being a glutton. 83 segments in 30 days just to see how many you can do? Sounds foolish and selfish (How many others with $599 passes won't be able to get the seats they need because of you?) Imagine how much fun you could have if you did this sensibly. Sure, you can go to an all-you-can-eat buffet and eat until you vomit, but why would you?

pavel_lishin 17y ago
I believe that in order to qualify for the seat, you have to make your reservations ahead of time. You don't just show up, then get your seat stolen out form under you, and return home in tears. Furthermore, you could apply this to virtually anything. Ever been to an all-you-can-eat buffet? Every shrimp you eat is a shrimp that some poor retiree won't get to eat. You monster.
- edw519 17y ago
  you have to make your reservations ahead of time Doesn't matter. The seat was still taken by someone who really didn't need it. Every shrimp you eat is a shrimp that some poor retiree won't get to eat Illogical analogy. The number of seats is limited. The number of shrimp (for all intents and purposes) is unlimited. Also, the shrimp are not distinctive; that is, any one shrimp is pretty much as the same as any other. The seats are distinctive per flight (a seat on Flight 123 is not the same thing as a seat on Flight 567). Lots of people made good faith purchases of these $599 passes for legitimate travel, and some of them will be disappointed because others want to game the system simply to see how far they could go with it. Not cool. You monster. I hope that's a joke (even though I don't get it).
  - byrneseyeview 17y ago
    The number of seats is limited. The number of shrimp (for all intents and purposes) is unlimited. Actually, the opposite is more precisely true. The marginal cost putting one more person on a plane is minimal, compared to the fixed cost of the flight. The marginal cost of one more shrimp correlates more closely with the total cost of shrimp.
    - edw519 17y ago
      In this case, marginal cost is not the issue. Supply is.
lliiffee 17y ago
I imagine the airline anticipated people doing this, and they are more than happy to have the publicity. (My guess is they are flying a bunch of empty seats lately because of the economy, so the marginal cost is very small.)
- edw519 17y ago
  My guess is they are flying a bunch of empty seats lately because of the economy Not because of the economy, but because September is notoriously slow. This was a great idea to fill those seats and will probably fill them all. Little solace to the poor schmuck who bought a pass to make a few flights this month but couldn't find seats because of others flying 3 times a day just for the heck of it.
  - dcurtis 17y ago
    "... and will probably fill them all." You have absolutely no information to base this statement upon. There are plenty of seats on all the flights we have looked at. September is just an empty month for airlines. We are not utilizing some scarce important resource, which is what you are incorrectly suggesting.
ivankirigin 17y ago
Selfish? It is up to individual consumers to make sure other consumers get a good deal? Hardly
- edw519 17y ago
  It is up to individual consumers to make sure other consumers get a good deal? Of course not. Let me ask a different question. At what point do you decouple the human element from the business element? Obviously, there is no right answer. It's everyone's judgement call. I would imagine someone who started a business (tipjoy) based upon the goodwill of others wouldn't do much decoupling at all. OP is clearly (and admittedly) abusing the system for the sake of abusing it with no regard to how his actions affect others. This isn't clever hacking, it's just gauche. I'd feel differently if he used his pass to have a great month and share his experience with others who don't have that opportunity. His current plan doesn't do any of that. It's a blown opportunity just to maximize something that doesn't matter. What a pity.
  - ivankirigin 17y ago
    I see no human element to this story. The people next to me on a flight barely count as a human relationship.
petercooper 17y ago
To be fair, any inconvenience caused is outweighed by the significant increase in chance of death or injury by flying so much.. ;P

by edw519 17y ago

pavel_lishin 17y ago

I believe that in order to qualify for the seat, you have to make your reservations ahead of time. You don't just show up, then get your seat stolen out form under you, and return home in tears. Furthermore, you could apply this to virtually anything. Ever been to an all-you-can-eat buffet? Every shrimp you eat is a shrimp that some poor retiree won't get to eat. You monster.

edw519 17y ago
you have to make your reservations ahead of time Doesn't matter. The seat was still taken by someone who really didn't need it. Every shrimp you eat is a shrimp that some poor retiree won't get to eat Illogical analogy. The number of seats is limited. The number of shrimp (for all intents and purposes) is unlimited. Also, the shrimp are not distinctive; that is, any one shrimp is pretty much as the same as any other. The seats are distinctive per flight (a seat on Flight 123 is not the same thing as a seat on Flight 567). Lots of people made good faith purchases of these $599 passes for legitimate travel, and some of them will be disappointed because others want to game the system simply to see how far they could go with it. Not cool. You monster. I hope that's a joke (even though I don't get it).
- byrneseyeview 17y ago
  The number of seats is limited. The number of shrimp (for all intents and purposes) is unlimited. Actually, the opposite is more precisely true. The marginal cost putting one more person on a plane is minimal, compared to the fixed cost of the flight. The marginal cost of one more shrimp correlates more closely with the total cost of shrimp.
  - edw519 17y ago
    In this case, marginal cost is not the issue. Supply is.

lliiffee 17y ago

I imagine the airline anticipated people doing this, and they are more than happy to have the publicity. (My guess is they are flying a bunch of empty seats lately because of the economy, so the marginal cost is very small.)

edw519 17y ago
My guess is they are flying a bunch of empty seats lately because of the economy Not because of the economy, but because September is notoriously slow. This was a great idea to fill those seats and will probably fill them all. Little solace to the poor schmuck who bought a pass to make a few flights this month but couldn't find seats because of others flying 3 times a day just for the heck of it.
- dcurtis 17y ago
  "... and will probably fill them all." You have absolutely no information to base this statement upon. There are plenty of seats on all the flights we have looked at. September is just an empty month for airlines. We are not utilizing some scarce important resource, which is what you are incorrectly suggesting.

ivankirigin 17y ago

Selfish? It is up to individual consumers to make sure other consumers get a good deal? Hardly

edw519 17y ago
It is up to individual consumers to make sure other consumers get a good deal? Of course not. Let me ask a different question. At what point do you decouple the human element from the business element? Obviously, there is no right answer. It's everyone's judgement call. I would imagine someone who started a business (tipjoy) based upon the goodwill of others wouldn't do much decoupling at all. OP is clearly (and admittedly) abusing the system for the sake of abusing it with no regard to how his actions affect others. This isn't clever hacking, it's just gauche. I'd feel differently if he used his pass to have a great month and share his experience with others who don't have that opportunity. His current plan doesn't do any of that. It's a blown opportunity just to maximize something that doesn't matter. What a pity.
- ivankirigin 17y ago
  I see no human element to this story. The people next to me on a flight barely count as a human relationship.

petercooper 17y ago

To be fair, any inconvenience caused is outweighed by the significant increase in chance of death or injury by flying so much.. ;P