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How about doing like the Norwegians: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 Their kids (have been taught to
by flexie 12y ago
How about doing like the Norwegians:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537
Their kids (have been taught to) kill less than kids in any American state.
EDIT: Don't know why I can't reply to any post, but the Norwegians actually have a diversity not that much unlike the US (15 percent immigrants / children of immigrants):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoThey have a uniform culture. Everything gets easier with a common mindset. Folks keep using Norway as a fish-in-the-barrel ideal case of how anything can work. But its probably not transferable to the population of the most diverse nation on earth.
- mikeash 12y agoHow does diversity necessitate a higher crime rate? I've heard this stated a lot, but the explanation of how it works is always missing.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoFolks with very different ideas of personal space, ownership, community, responsibility will naturally have larger friction between members.
- mikeash 12y agoDoes that friction actually translate into crime, though? Further, the racial minority most overrepresented in the prison population in the US has actually been here longer than most, including a substantial chunk of the white majority. Shouldn't that imply full assimilation and smaller differences like you mention?
- curun1r 12y agoThe US has selective enforcement of laws...minorities are far more likely to be arrested for things like drug use than those in the majority. The US has a social safety net for the poor that's pathetic compared to most EU countries. And the US has employment practices that make it difficult for most people with a criminal record to ever get decent employment again. Poor, desperate people who feel like their future options are limited are far more likely to commit crimes than those who are financially comfortable and/or believe they have promising futures. Diversity doesn't necessitate higher crime rates, but our diversity combined with our policies does.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoConflates folks of different cultures (and different social expectations) with race? I come from a rural agricultural area. Fighting in public is a popular pastime. Yet if somebody calls the cops, you can end up in the tank overnight. That's clearly not racial but cultural.
- josai 12y ago> the most diverse nation on earth Huh? Papua New Guinea? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_eth... The USA is #85, not even close.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoAnd Norway is #146
- DavidBradbury 12y agoI'm not arguing for or against, but the list seems to use language as a basis for cultural diversity. While language might have a correlation with cultural diversity, it doesn't seem fair to use that as an argument for what countries are more culturally diverse. Also, how countries report their numbers greatly impact these sorts of assessments. Lastly, comparing more tribal-based countries with modern countries also makes it tricky.
- tsotha 12y agoI wish people would stop saying this. The US isn't even close to being the most diverse nation.
- tsotha 12y agoI'm sure Brevik's victims were very proud of that as they bled out.
- tsotha 12y agoNorway is 94.4% ethnic Norwegian as of 2014. It just isn't comparable. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/no.html https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/...