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Copying my previous answer here (and more explanation at the end): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7821157 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7821157 Ye

by pdevr 12y ago

Copying my previous answer here (and more explanation at the end): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7821157 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7821157 Yes, and I think OP was trying to point out Google Adsense allows "paid links" to be displayed on the same website: "You own a website, I own a website, I pay $100 to Google who decides when to show my ad on your website and keep $60 for itself." In other words, if you pay Google (30% more money)[1] to display the links on another website, you are alright. However, if you directly pay the website owners (roughly 30% less money) for them to add a paid link on the same site at the same spot, you are running afoul of Google's rules. So, as a business owner, to be in the good books of Google, you incur 30% extra expenses. I am not trying to criticize Google here (I use multiple Google services), just pointing out how many small business owners see this. More explanation: <a class="rhtitle" href="http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?longurl" http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?longurl" target="_top" title="google.com/Chromecast"><span>Online Content Now on TV</span></a> The code above is an actual Adsense advertisement (I have removed/changed the code and id everywhere). There is no no-follow anywhere there. So, it appears as if it is alright to insert a link with no no-follow as long as you are paying Google. Correct me if I am wrong. [1] https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/180195?hl=en https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/180195?hl=en

sunnykgupta 12y ago
Exactly my point.
phpnode 12y ago
These ads are pulled in via JS, in an iframe, so it's not quite the same thing - they don't pass link juice.
meleva 12y ago
One reason to justify Google's cut is that on an advertising deal where the Advertiser gets billed for each click (CPC) on his link on someone else website, having a reliable third party to count the clicks is very important. Click fraud is what makes Tier 2 CPC networks really risky for advertisers even if CPC are much lower than Tier 1 (Adwords, Bing). Regarding your Adsense example, was there not a mention like "Ads by Google," "Sponsored Links," or the AdChoices icon ? In that case, it makes clear that it's not a natural link.

by pdevr 12y ago

sunnykgupta 12y ago

Exactly my point.

phpnode 12y ago

These ads are pulled in via JS, in an iframe, so it's not quite the same thing - they don't pass link juice.

meleva 12y ago

One reason to justify Google's cut is that on an advertising deal where the Advertiser gets billed for each click (CPC) on his link on someone else website, having a reliable third party to count the clicks is very important. Click fraud is what makes Tier 2 CPC networks really risky for advertisers even if CPC are much lower than Tier 1 (Adwords, Bing). Regarding your Adsense example, was there not a mention like "Ads by Google," "Sponsored Links," or the AdChoices icon ? In that case, it makes clear that it's not a natural link.