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The best data to support his assertion is the out of wedlock birthrate. Up until the 60s, in spite of all the horrific racism, the out of wedlock birth rate was
by NoPiece 12y ago
The best data to support his assertion is the out of wedlock birthrate. Up until the 60s, in spite of all the horrific racism, the out of wedlock birth rate was still below 20% for african americans. As of 2010, it was 73%.
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- trustfundbaby 12y agoRight, but you could look at the incarceration rates and mortality rates for young black males which probably coincide with that spike for the explanation. Women aren't going to not have children just because there are no men to marry, (my opinion here) as long as they can have children they will try to raise them on their own if they have to. I'd argue that slavery, racism and institutionalized discrimination, which led to packing blacks into housing ghettos or poorer neighborhoods in addition to heavy policing because of all that is the cause of what you're seeing and not the other way around. Additionally, as you can see the rates of out of wedlock births has exploded all around (white rates went from 2% to 30%, notably white society has collapsed from this astounding increase) which means that it is probably also pretty accepted by society which makes it more likely to happen.
- NoPiece 12y agoI agree that the incarceration rate (drug war) and cultural acceptance have been major factors. The data doesn't support that slavery, racism, housing discrimination were causes. When those terrible things were in full effect, the out of wedlock birth rate was flat and relatively low. Lower than the white out of wedlock birthrate is today. If you look at the large uptick in the late 60's and 70's, it points more to the drug war,the rise of the welfare state, and cultural acceptance as major factors.
- makomk 12y agoOne possible contributor to that is the creation of government-subsidised housing programs that forbade fathers from living with the family, which many black families relied on due to poverty, systematic racial discrimination, poor access to education, and housing discrimination which made it far harder and more expensive for them to buy homes than anyone else.