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> South Korea are great at consumer electronics South Korea is also strong in shipbuilding. I think about nearly half of the ships being built these days are f

by dba7dba 12y ago

> South Korea are great at consumer electronics South Korea is also strong in shipbuilding. I think about nearly half of the ships being built these days are from South Korea. And these are not just simple container carriers. Lots of LNG carriers and also a few billion dollar LNG floating plants that are being built by Samsung Shipyard. And Hyundai is also 4th largest car manufacturer as of 2012, ahead of Ford, Nissan, Honda. Oh btw, I don't see any German corporation in top 30 US Patent Assignees. Top 20 are dominated by US, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. Highest ranked German firm is Siemens at #33. I agree the article is standing on weak reasonings.

bane 12y ago
It's probably still true, but the #1 and #2 largest shipyards in the world are right down the road from each other on the Koje-Do island - Samsung and Daewoo within just a few ships from each other in terms of overall size. There are 3 very large shipbuilders in South Korea as it turns out. I got a chance to get a tour of the Daewoo Shipyard back about 6 years ago now. And they had all manner of ships under construction, including ships as advanced as submarines -- all for external countries. The submarines were all for Germany IIR. It was very impressive.
levosmetalo 12y ago
It's funny how patents are now used as an indicator of innovation here, while seemingly vocal majority here on HN would happily dismiss complete patent system as meaningless and and because it suppress innovation. That being said, why would German companies rush to register their patents in US patent office? What is the ranking of US companies registering patents in Germany?
- dba7dba 12y ago
  Sorry if I somehow indicated # of patents is the absolute measure of how innovative a company/nation is. It's not. I'm just saying it is ONE of the tools to show the article is flawed. Not ALL patents are useless, only some. And it's preposterous that Apple wants $50 per Samsung mobile device for allegedly infringing 2 or 3 patents when each mobile device touches upon about 250,000 patents (patent on manufacturing tool, patent on the manufacturing tech that was used to build the manufacturing tool, material, etc etc). But I digress. And # of patents assigned WAS one of the best tool for measuring innovativeness before some started abusing it (filing bogus patents, patent trolling). Global corporations file patents in US because US has largest market (or used to) and rule of law is strong.

by dba7dba 12y ago

bane 12y ago

It's probably still true, but the #1 and #2 largest shipyards in the world are right down the road from each other on the Koje-Do island - Samsung and Daewoo within just a few ships from each other in terms of overall size. There are 3 very large shipbuilders in South Korea as it turns out. I got a chance to get a tour of the Daewoo Shipyard back about 6 years ago now. And they had all manner of ships under construction, including ships as advanced as submarines -- all for external countries. The submarines were all for Germany IIR. It was very impressive.

levosmetalo 12y ago

It's funny how patents are now used as an indicator of innovation here, while seemingly vocal majority here on HN would happily dismiss complete patent system as meaningless and and because it suppress innovation. That being said, why would German companies rush to register their patents in US patent office? What is the ranking of US companies registering patents in Germany?

dba7dba 12y ago
Sorry if I somehow indicated # of patents is the absolute measure of how innovative a company/nation is. It's not. I'm just saying it is ONE of the tools to show the article is flawed. Not ALL patents are useless, only some. And it's preposterous that Apple wants $50 per Samsung mobile device for allegedly infringing 2 or 3 patents when each mobile device touches upon about 250,000 patents (patent on manufacturing tool, patent on the manufacturing tech that was used to build the manufacturing tool, material, etc etc). But I digress. And # of patents assigned WAS one of the best tool for measuring innovativeness before some started abusing it (filing bogus patents, patent trolling). Global corporations file patents in US because US has largest market (or used to) and rule of law is strong.