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2-3x factoring in cost of living in places like SF and NY? Isn't that the evening out factor, at least for new grads, for a job in say Toronto or Waterloo vs t

by beltex 12y ago

2-3x factoring in cost of living in places like SF and NY? Isn't that the evening out factor, at least for new grads, for a job in say Toronto or Waterloo vs the valley?

dataminer 12y ago
You will still come out ahead in SF vs Toronto http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Toronto&country2=United+States&city2=San+Francisco%2C+CA http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?coun...
- erichate 12y ago
  interesting site, plugged in Victoria Canada (city my company is in) and numbers seemed a little off for rent currently listed in craigslist. +170% on website more like +300% from quick look in craigslist. also doesn't factor in time commuting, quality of life, avg hrs worked per day, etc... would love to see a pay breakdown $$ / hr worked (at office).
  - dataminer 12y ago
    The data is crowd sourced so it may deviate, you can contribute your data to keep it aligned. Also the quality of life and commuting comparisons can be done from the pull down menu in the header.
    - erichate 12y ago
      interesting, would imagine that could deviate quite a bit then. for things like cost of coffee / meals i could see crowd sourcing but aggregating from an online source for rentals / housing sales would lead to much more accurate estimate as they are the bigger ticket items.
  - untog 12y ago
    OT, but how is Victoria as a city to run a tech company in? I lived there nearly a decade ago and enjoyed my time - I still think about returning some day.
    - tonglil 12y ago
      IBM research and that's about it. Maybe some small start ups but otherwise I recall its website shops.
      - mock 12y ago
        This has changed quite a bit. There are a strangely large number of companies (both startups and a-bit-older-than-startups) doing various large data analytics type things. Also plenty of adtech related startups.
    - mock 12y ago
      Please do. Everyone I know is hiring. We're hiring. http://www.viatec.ca/job-board/11521 http://www.viatec.ca/job-board/11521
rubiquity 12y ago
Don't underestimate how expensive Canada is. I recently moved from San Diego to Calgary and everything here is more expensive (groceries being the most extreme at 40-60% more) and unlike San Diego, Calgary doesn't have an ocean.
- canistr 12y ago
  And keep in mind that oil-rich Alberta has it cheaper for a lot of stuff (taxes) compared to Ontario/BC/Quebec.
erichate 12y ago
@rubiquity calgary is oil country that is why you are seeing higher prices

by beltex 12y ago

2-3x factoring in cost of living in places like SF and NY? Isn't that the evening out factor, at least for new grads, for a job in say Toronto or Waterloo vs the valley?

dataminer 12y ago

You will still come out ahead in SF vs Toronto http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Toronto&country2=United+States&city2=San+Francisco%2C+CA http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?coun...

erichate 12y ago
interesting site, plugged in Victoria Canada (city my company is in) and numbers seemed a little off for rent currently listed in craigslist. +170% on website more like +300% from quick look in craigslist. also doesn't factor in time commuting, quality of life, avg hrs worked per day, etc... would love to see a pay breakdown $$ / hr worked (at office).
- dataminer 12y ago
  The data is crowd sourced so it may deviate, you can contribute your data to keep it aligned. Also the quality of life and commuting comparisons can be done from the pull down menu in the header.
  - erichate 12y ago
    interesting, would imagine that could deviate quite a bit then. for things like cost of coffee / meals i could see crowd sourcing but aggregating from an online source for rentals / housing sales would lead to much more accurate estimate as they are the bigger ticket items.
- untog 12y ago
  OT, but how is Victoria as a city to run a tech company in? I lived there nearly a decade ago and enjoyed my time - I still think about returning some day.
  - tonglil 12y ago
    IBM research and that's about it. Maybe some small start ups but otherwise I recall its website shops.
    - mock 12y ago
      This has changed quite a bit. There are a strangely large number of companies (both startups and a-bit-older-than-startups) doing various large data analytics type things. Also plenty of adtech related startups.
  - mock 12y ago
    Please do. Everyone I know is hiring. We're hiring. http://www.viatec.ca/job-board/11521 http://www.viatec.ca/job-board/11521

rubiquity 12y ago

Don't underestimate how expensive Canada is. I recently moved from San Diego to Calgary and everything here is more expensive (groceries being the most extreme at 40-60% more) and unlike San Diego, Calgary doesn't have an ocean.

canistr 12y ago
And keep in mind that oil-rich Alberta has it cheaper for a lot of stuff (taxes) compared to Ontario/BC/Quebec.

erichate 12y ago

@rubiquity calgary is oil country that is why you are seeing higher prices