If not here, then where? I, myself, have all the hopes in the world for another open-source mobile ecosystem but all I've seen come out of "the project" is seve

If not here, then where? I, myself, have all the hopes in the world for another open-source mobile ecosystem but all I've seen come out of "the project" is several burner phones and devs on HN complaining about the whole thing. I haven't seen anyone cheering for joy at anything beyond the extensional concept.