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I'm using Python 3.4. All the libraries I need are available, including the world's best database library, SQLAlchemy. It's a more pleasant experience than Pyth

I'm using Python 3.4. All the libraries I need are available, including the world's best database library, SQLAlchemy. It's a more pleasant experience than Python 2.x. And I have the peace of mind knowing that I'm not stuck on a legacy, deprecated platform. I used to stick up for Python 3 on HN and other places but I've given up. I have no interest in converting people going to Go. And no matter what Python (or any other language) does, they are going to lose users to JavaScript. Also, my experience is that people who feel passionate about Python 2.x will shout down people who are using Python 3 with "nobody uses Python 3." Who has time for that?

sergiosgc 12y ago
I thought I was alone. I also stopped trying to convert people to Python 3. It is a much better language. By this point, it should be obvious. After taking it for a test lap, and after cursing at forgetting parenthesis on print for the hundredth time, you get it. Anyone who uses python and, by this time, hasn't taken python 3 for a test run isn't worth my advocacy time.
- adamc 12y ago
  I don't think it's a question of test runs. For most of us, it's a question of waiting for various libraries to be ported.
  - pekk 12y ago
    How do you know what "most of us" think?
    - collyw 12y ago
      speaks to people, reads forums, participates in conversations like this.... When I have seen people talking about sticking with Python 2, its either because A) why bother I don't need to B) a specific library is not Python 3 yet.
      - pekk 12y ago
        Selective hearing has not provided the other side of the story. Because it's not true at all that everyone or even a clear majority agrees with the viewpoint you've expressed
  - kazagistar 12y ago
    The porting is not that hard. Almost every library which isn't ported at this point is probably legacy, depreciated for something significantly better, or abandoned.
- collyw 12y ago
  You say it is a much better language. I see very little difference between the two.. With the exception of exceptions, and print I think all the changes must be to language features I don't know about / use.

sergiosgc 12y ago

I thought I was alone. I also stopped trying to convert people to Python 3. It is a much better language. By this point, it should be obvious. After taking it for a test lap, and after cursing at forgetting parenthesis on print for the hundredth time, you get it. Anyone who uses python and, by this time, hasn't taken python 3 for a test run isn't worth my advocacy time.

adamc 12y ago
I don't think it's a question of test runs. For most of us, it's a question of waiting for various libraries to be ported.
- pekk 12y ago
  How do you know what "most of us" think?
  - collyw 12y ago
    speaks to people, reads forums, participates in conversations like this.... When I have seen people talking about sticking with Python 2, its either because A) why bother I don't need to B) a specific library is not Python 3 yet.
    - pekk 12y ago
      Selective hearing has not provided the other side of the story. Because it's not true at all that everyone or even a clear majority agrees with the viewpoint you've expressed
- kazagistar 12y ago
  The porting is not that hard. Almost every library which isn't ported at this point is probably legacy, depreciated for something significantly better, or abandoned.
collyw 12y ago
You say it is a much better language. I see very little difference between the two.. With the exception of exceptions, and print I think all the changes must be to language features I don't know about / use.