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>If he was trying to avoid diabetes, that makes sense to me, that affects anywhere from 10-40 years of your life, and is a very extreme quality-of-life factor.

by jere 12y ago

>If he was trying to avoid diabetes, that makes sense to me, that affects anywhere from 10-40 years of your life, and is a very extreme quality-of-life factor. Sure and two of the biggest factors in preventing/treating diabetes are exercise and weight maintenance. >This doesn't explain anything, however. It's tautological... he wants to increase his fitness, to increase his fitness? Nope. He is performing weight bearing exercise to, not only become better at performing those exercises, but also with the goal of achieving better body composition, bone density, stamina, mental well being, etc. These have huge impacts on quality of life. You've established that you don't value longevity and quality of life, but it shouldn't be hard to understand why others seek that out.

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
> Sure and two of the biggest factors in preventing/treating diabetes are exercise and weight maintenance. 60 years ago, your grandfather's generation had no problems with this at all. They didn't go to the gym. While exercise is a factor, these people have taken the required level of exercise and kicked it up 10,000%. > Nope. He is performing weight bearing exercise to, not only become better at performing those exercises, but also with the goal of achieving better body composition, Better in what sense? Again, you're being tautological. > mental well being Huh? The only way it increases his mental well being is that he believes that if he doesn't meet some abstract ideal he'll have failed... an ideal which he chose in the first place. The hamster doesn't run on the wheel because it thinks that being a fatty is deplorable, but because it's become mentally ill trapped in its cage. > You've established that you don't value longevity My maternal grandfather weighs 300 pounds. He turns 81 this year. How much longevity would it buy me? Any number of years (realistically more like months) that I'd get will be at the end of my life, when it matters little. > and quality of life, My life's quality is already pretty high. What is it that I'm missing? Being able to hike up a mountain?
- mhb 12y ago
  The hamster doesn't run on the wheel because it thinks that being a fatty is deplorable, but because it's become mentally ill trapped in its cage. Wild mice actually enjoy running on exercise wheels: http://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2014/may/21/wild-mice-exercise-wheels-behaviour-stereotypy-neurosis http://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2014/may/21...
- sheepmullet 12y ago
  >60 years ago, your grandfather's generation had no problems with this at all. They didn't go to the gym. My grandfathers generation got a lot of daily exercise. My grandfather was a farmer and was on his feet for 10+ hours every day. >Huh? The only way it increases his mental well being is that he believes that if he doesn't meet some abstract ideal he'll have failed ?? Regular exercise has dramatic effects on stress levels and general cognitive ability. > My life's quality is already pretty high. What is it that I'm missing? Being able to hike up a mountain? You can have an amazing quality of life without ever reading a book after high school... You can have an amazing quality of life even if you are born paralyzed from the waist down... You can have an amazing quality of life if you are deaf or blind... You can have an amazing quality of life despite being in massive debt...

by jere 12y ago

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago

> Sure and two of the biggest factors in preventing/treating diabetes are exercise and weight maintenance. 60 years ago, your grandfather's generation had no problems with this at all. They didn't go to the gym. While exercise is a factor, these people have taken the required level of exercise and kicked it up 10,000%. > Nope. He is performing weight bearing exercise to, not only become better at performing those exercises, but also with the goal of achieving better body composition, Better in what sense? Again, you're being tautological. > mental well being Huh? The only way it increases his mental well being is that he believes that if he doesn't meet some abstract ideal he'll have failed... an ideal which he chose in the first place. The hamster doesn't run on the wheel because it thinks that being a fatty is deplorable, but because it's become mentally ill trapped in its cage. > You've established that you don't value longevity My maternal grandfather weighs 300 pounds. He turns 81 this year. How much longevity would it buy me? Any number of years (realistically more like months) that I'd get will be at the end of my life, when it matters little. > and quality of life, My life's quality is already pretty high. What is it that I'm missing? Being able to hike up a mountain?

mhb 12y ago
The hamster doesn't run on the wheel because it thinks that being a fatty is deplorable, but because it's become mentally ill trapped in its cage. Wild mice actually enjoy running on exercise wheels: http://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2014/may/21/wild-mice-exercise-wheels-behaviour-stereotypy-neurosis http://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2014/may/21...
sheepmullet 12y ago
>60 years ago, your grandfather's generation had no problems with this at all. They didn't go to the gym. My grandfathers generation got a lot of daily exercise. My grandfather was a farmer and was on his feet for 10+ hours every day. >Huh? The only way it increases his mental well being is that he believes that if he doesn't meet some abstract ideal he'll have failed ?? Regular exercise has dramatic effects on stress levels and general cognitive ability. > My life's quality is already pretty high. What is it that I'm missing? Being able to hike up a mountain? You can have an amazing quality of life without ever reading a book after high school... You can have an amazing quality of life even if you are born paralyzed from the waist down... You can have an amazing quality of life if you are deaf or blind... You can have an amazing quality of life despite being in massive debt...