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In my experience, people who've had exorbitant numbers of kernel panics on Macs have had tons of things installed that muck around with MacOS X internals. Virtu

In my experience, people who've had exorbitant numbers of kernel panics on Macs have had tons of things installed that muck around with MacOS X internals. VirtualBox, old SIMBL hacks, manual fan controls, etc. Those are all notoriously unstable and can cause lots of kernel panics.

agotterer 12y ago
You mean all the thing I use to do my job? I actually lag 4-6 months behind releases now on both my macbook and my iphone. While I used to love being an early adopter and downloading the latest release the night it came out. Over the past few years I've had so many stability issues that I can't afford the annoyance, frustrations, and hit to productivity. It definitely seems that the quality of apple os's out of the gate have more problems then they did in the past.
- aragot 12y ago
  It may not be a process & quality question, but simply staffing with very highly experienced and smart people. Some analyze that the Windows kernel has that problem[1]. [1] http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74 http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
gtaylor 12y ago
It seems more like a buggy OS that doesn't handle certain combinations of external monitors and GPUs. Let's call it like it is: 10.9 needs some fixing. Plugging in an external monitor shouldn't be a big thing. I shouldn't have to tread on egg shells as far as what I do with such an expensive piece of equipment.
hollerith 12y ago
>VirtualBox . . . notoriously unstable Is there virtualization software that is not unstable on OS X?
- plorkyeran 12y ago
  I've only had one kernel panic clearly linked to Parallels, but I still haven't made it to a month of uptime after over two years of using OS X, so it's quite possible that's it's causing non-obvious problems even with no VMs running.
- stephen_g 12y ago
  VMWare fusion has been really good for me. Some of the only kernel panics I have ever had we I think to do with VirtualBox's kernel module. VMWare feels faster too.
- rbanffy 12y ago
  I use VirtualBox every single day and never had a problem. One of my VMs has been running more or less continuously for more than 10 days.
jakejake 12y ago
Usually when I start getting a ton of kernel panics, I suspect hardware - bad memory or hard drive. Just had an iMac doing that last month and it was indeed the hard drive. Anecdotal information is not particularly helpful but I have had almost zero 10.9.x kernel panic problems on any of our 11 machines except for one that had bad RAM and another that the hard drive was dying.

agotterer 12y ago

You mean all the thing I use to do my job? I actually lag 4-6 months behind releases now on both my macbook and my iphone. While I used to love being an early adopter and downloading the latest release the night it came out. Over the past few years I've had so many stability issues that I can't afford the annoyance, frustrations, and hit to productivity. It definitely seems that the quality of apple os's out of the gate have more problems then they did in the past.

aragot 12y ago
It may not be a process & quality question, but simply staffing with very highly experienced and smart people. Some analyze that the Windows kernel has that problem[1]. [1] http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74 http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74

gtaylor 12y ago

It seems more like a buggy OS that doesn't handle certain combinations of external monitors and GPUs. Let's call it like it is: 10.9 needs some fixing. Plugging in an external monitor shouldn't be a big thing. I shouldn't have to tread on egg shells as far as what I do with such an expensive piece of equipment.

hollerith 12y ago

>VirtualBox . . . notoriously unstable Is there virtualization software that is not unstable on OS X?

plorkyeran 12y ago
I've only had one kernel panic clearly linked to Parallels, but I still haven't made it to a month of uptime after over two years of using OS X, so it's quite possible that's it's causing non-obvious problems even with no VMs running.
stephen_g 12y ago
VMWare fusion has been really good for me. Some of the only kernel panics I have ever had we I think to do with VirtualBox's kernel module. VMWare feels faster too.
rbanffy 12y ago
I use VirtualBox every single day and never had a problem. One of my VMs has been running more or less continuously for more than 10 days.

jakejake 12y ago

Usually when I start getting a ton of kernel panics, I suspect hardware - bad memory or hard drive. Just had an iMac doing that last month and it was indeed the hard drive. Anecdotal information is not particularly helpful but I have had almost zero 10.9.x kernel panic problems on any of our 11 machines except for one that had bad RAM and another that the hard drive was dying.