> (Though to be fair, much of the animal-non-rights movement seems to be similarly non-scientific :P) Much of the "animal non-rights" movement is anti-free spe

> (Though to be fair, much of the animal-non-rights movement seems to be similarly non-scientific :P) Much of the "animal non-rights" movement is anti-free speech (e.g. ag-gag laws) (and is the recipient of lots of government hand-out money, tries to convince that government that peaceful protesters should be classified as 'terrorists' for pushing an agenda that is detrimental to their business, etc), so they should be opposed by more than just the animal rights people.