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Citroen the company was always underfunded and they could never invest in quality control. I wonder how a hydraulic suspension would fare if produced by today'

by hcho 12y ago

Citroen the company was always underfunded and they could never invest in quality control. I wonder how a hydraulic suspension would fare if produced by today's technology and quality standards. DS has a flying carpet ride feel to it and even the most upmarket cars of today can't reach that.

pling 12y ago
Yeah the ride was pretty awesome. Until it broke. Spot on. Then again I have a FIAT (Fix It Again Tony) with a MultiJet engine which has been hellishly expensive to keep alive so today's technology and quality standards are debatable.
gambiting 12y ago
I've driven the latest Range Rover(the big one,not Sport), and although it has a pneumatic, rather than hydraulic suspension, the ride was smoother than anything I have ever experienced. It did feel like a magic carpet, frankly.
- pling 12y ago
  My father has one (early 2014). Very true about the ride. Unfortunately it's plagued with electrical problems. When you plug in an iPhone into the USB charger port, the navigation and heating crashes. The ECU and several CAN bus controllers have been replaced and it still does it. Plus the alternator exploded. Fortunately all under warranty but for a car that has been on the road for 4 months, it's spent 6 weeks in a garage.
  - gambiting 12y ago
    Wow that's pretty bad. I've owned the Discovery 3 for a few years, but I must have been very lucky,because despite having a reputation for really faulty electrical systems, mine never had a single problem with that. I've driven the new Range for a testdrive and as part of the Land Rover Experience day,and I was very impressed. Shame about your dad's car,sounds like bad design.
    - pling 12y ago
      Yeah disco 3's are pretty good I understand. My boss has one. Never complained. I think the RR issues are teething issues with a new engineering line. I drove a 1992 V8 110 county a few years ago. Best car I ever had. Didn't go down well with a young family though, all the climbing and stopping for petrol, so I had to give it up for a people carrier :(

by hcho 12y ago

pling 12y ago

Yeah the ride was pretty awesome. Until it broke. Spot on. Then again I have a FIAT (Fix It Again Tony) with a MultiJet engine which has been hellishly expensive to keep alive so today's technology and quality standards are debatable.

gambiting 12y ago

I've driven the latest Range Rover(the big one,not Sport), and although it has a pneumatic, rather than hydraulic suspension, the ride was smoother than anything I have ever experienced. It did feel like a magic carpet, frankly.

pling 12y ago
My father has one (early 2014). Very true about the ride. Unfortunately it's plagued with electrical problems. When you plug in an iPhone into the USB charger port, the navigation and heating crashes. The ECU and several CAN bus controllers have been replaced and it still does it. Plus the alternator exploded. Fortunately all under warranty but for a car that has been on the road for 4 months, it's spent 6 weeks in a garage.
- gambiting 12y ago
  Wow that's pretty bad. I've owned the Discovery 3 for a few years, but I must have been very lucky,because despite having a reputation for really faulty electrical systems, mine never had a single problem with that. I've driven the new Range for a testdrive and as part of the Land Rover Experience day,and I was very impressed. Shame about your dad's car,sounds like bad design.
  - pling 12y ago
    Yeah disco 3's are pretty good I understand. My boss has one. Never complained. I think the RR issues are teething issues with a new engineering line. I drove a 1992 V8 110 county a few years ago. Best car I ever had. Didn't go down well with a young family though, all the climbing and stopping for petrol, so I had to give it up for a people carrier :(