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I also hate things that are made up. http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341 http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341 Most people who feel animosity to feminists are a

by srpablo 12y ago

I also hate things that are made up. http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341 http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341 Most people who feel animosity to feminists are attacking a caricature of them that can't be said to meaningfully exist. It also usually involves a misclassification of anger at a bad situation with 'hate.' The fact that you can read something like this article and connect it to anything hateful, let alone angry (it's not either) shows why many feminists get frustrated even talking about inequality: people aren't listening to what's being said, their demonstrating faulty thinking and prejudices, often while denying they exist.

bucketsbuckets 12y ago
"Someone needed a quote for the paper so I told them all men were rapists." http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-08/news/1993128032_1_potential-rapists-campus-feminist-art http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-08/news/1993128032_... Still going to insist these are straw feminists? Anyway it is important to recognize that you can advocate for gender equal rights without labeling yourself "feminist"—or allowing feminists to force that baggage-laden label upon you against your own will.
swombat 12y ago
Read through https://twitter.com/shanley https://twitter.com/shanley - give it a good hour. You'll come out thinking that you've experienced an alternate dimension, in which all men are evil, all women are victims who need to fight against the oppressor, and the only way forward is some kind of violent revolution, probably accompanied with mass executions of some sort. It's not a caricature. Those people are real, and fairly scary. See http://squid314.livejournal.com/329561.html http://squid314.livejournal.com/329561.html for why they're scary.
- makomk 12y ago
  Yeah, and every time someone like you objects to them, moderate feminists spring forward to insist that they're "straw feminists", that you imagined the whole thing, and that even thinking such feminists exist proves you really just have an axe to grind against feminism. I've even been accused of attacking a straw feminist for (accurately) criticising the views of someone who was incredibly popular amongst that group of feminists for exactly those views. Even if only a small proportion of feminists hold fucked up views, almost all of them are part of the problem by shielding those extremists from criticism.

by srpablo 12y ago

bucketsbuckets 12y ago

"Someone needed a quote for the paper so I told them all men were rapists." http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-08/news/1993128032_1_potential-rapists-campus-feminist-art http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-08/news/1993128032_... Still going to insist these are straw feminists? Anyway it is important to recognize that you can advocate for gender equal rights without labeling yourself "feminist"—or allowing feminists to force that baggage-laden label upon you against your own will.

swombat 12y ago

Read through https://twitter.com/shanley https://twitter.com/shanley - give it a good hour. You'll come out thinking that you've experienced an alternate dimension, in which all men are evil, all women are victims who need to fight against the oppressor, and the only way forward is some kind of violent revolution, probably accompanied with mass executions of some sort. It's not a caricature. Those people are real, and fairly scary. See http://squid314.livejournal.com/329561.html http://squid314.livejournal.com/329561.html for why they're scary.

makomk 12y ago
Yeah, and every time someone like you objects to them, moderate feminists spring forward to insist that they're "straw feminists", that you imagined the whole thing, and that even thinking such feminists exist proves you really just have an axe to grind against feminism. I've even been accused of attacking a straw feminist for (accurately) criticising the views of someone who was incredibly popular amongst that group of feminists for exactly those views. Even if only a small proportion of feminists hold fucked up views, almost all of them are part of the problem by shielding those extremists from criticism.