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I'm just worried that the pen (N-Trig this time instead of industry standard Wacom) won't be good enough for serious art creation. If the reviews are good, I'll

by frooxie 12y ago

I'm just worried that the pen (N-Trig this time instead of industry standard Wacom) won't be good enough for serious art creation. If the reviews are good, I'll buy it, but many illustrators are apprehensive and angry that Microsoft seems to have released a generally improved product but which may nonetheless be markedly worse than the Surface 2 for drawing.

bpicolo 12y ago
Is there any reason the Wacom pen won't work on the surface 3, just without the new features?
rlu 12y ago
I read speculation on another site that said that perhaps Wacom refused to partner with Surface Pro 3 because that device was more similar to devices that Wacom themselves make. I'm actually not familiar with this area at all, but I guess the argument is that the smaller screen size of Surface pro 1 and 2 made it different enough from the Wacom tablets, where as Surface Pro 3 kind of fudges that line. Again, just repeating what I read on another site. I'm not actually familiar with Wacom devices.
nivla 12y ago
The N-Trig only has 256 levels of pressure, while the wacom has 1024 level. So it sure doesn't stack upto the old wacom digitizer. However its interesting to compare it to the human hand which can only recognize 32 levels of sensitivity. Maybe the reason to go with N-Trig was to cut down on cost and they found a way to get rid of the parallax issue (The lag between the pen scroll and the actual output)?
slantyyz 12y ago
>> I'm just worried that the pen (N-Trig this time instead of industry standard Wacom) won't be good enough for serious art creation. No matter what pen tech is being used, there are going to be compromises. I calibrated my Surface's Wacom pen with over 100 points (as opposed to the default 4), and you still get really weird detection points at the edges. And because there's sensitivity issues with the angle you're holding a Wacom pen, the pointer isn't always where the pen tip is. This is especially problematic if you like switching between portrait and landscape mode. Wacom may be the standard, but it's far from perfect.

by frooxie 12y ago

bpicolo 12y ago

Is there any reason the Wacom pen won't work on the surface 3, just without the new features?

rlu 12y ago

I read speculation on another site that said that perhaps Wacom refused to partner with Surface Pro 3 because that device was more similar to devices that Wacom themselves make. I'm actually not familiar with this area at all, but I guess the argument is that the smaller screen size of Surface pro 1 and 2 made it different enough from the Wacom tablets, where as Surface Pro 3 kind of fudges that line. Again, just repeating what I read on another site. I'm not actually familiar with Wacom devices.

nivla 12y ago

The N-Trig only has 256 levels of pressure, while the wacom has 1024 level. So it sure doesn't stack upto the old wacom digitizer. However its interesting to compare it to the human hand which can only recognize 32 levels of sensitivity. Maybe the reason to go with N-Trig was to cut down on cost and they found a way to get rid of the parallax issue (The lag between the pen scroll and the actual output)?

slantyyz 12y ago

>> I'm just worried that the pen (N-Trig this time instead of industry standard Wacom) won't be good enough for serious art creation. No matter what pen tech is being used, there are going to be compromises. I calibrated my Surface's Wacom pen with over 100 points (as opposed to the default 4), and you still get really weird detection points at the edges. And because there's sensitivity issues with the angle you're holding a Wacom pen, the pointer isn't always where the pen tip is. This is especially problematic if you like switching between portrait and landscape mode. Wacom may be the standard, but it's far from perfect.