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Except that that's not true: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google-fiber-now-explicitly-permits-home-servers/ http://arstechnica.com/inf

Except that that's not true: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google-fiber-now-explicitly-permits-home-servers/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google... Unless you're trying to run a commercial website from your apartment, but I don't think that's unreasonable.

dragonwriter 12y ago
> Unless you're trying to run a commercial website from your apartment Actually, I'd say regulating on commercial vs. noncommercial rather than traffic or even, as a fairly blunt tool, a straight server ban is actually more of a violation of the "any legal software" rule (rather, its equally a violation of that rule, and its no longer even superficially about network management, the potential basis for exception to the rule, but instead is pure market segregation.)
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deathanatos 12y ago
And why shouldn't I be able to run a commercial server? But apparently a commercial client is okay? You don't mind me making money, you don't mind traffic, but you care very much which direction TCP connections are initiated, but only when there might be commercial activity involved? Why? (And "Too much traffic" isn't a valid answer here: if I have a client, I can use as much bandwidth as I like — respecting the other sections of the ToS, which are outside the scope of this discussion.)
- brixon 12y ago
  If you get a commercial account/connection then you should be fine. Even if it is not technical, it might be like garbage services in my area where commercial operations subsidize residential operations. Residential connections might be getting a discount that is paid by commercial entities and you would be cheating their pricing model.
  - Consultant32452 12y ago
    I had never considered that before but I presume you're onto something there. There's likely some commercial interest or government subsidy/tax implications that come into play as to why business and residential pay different rates for the same line.
- callesgg 12y ago
  I would guess it has to do with liability. I can't run commercial stuff on my line either, according to my contract. I think it is pretty standard to have that in the contract. However I am way more concerned about other stuff in my contract.
- binarycrusader 12y ago
  Because they've priced their service and agreements at a level that assumes that someone isn't running a business using their super-cheap Google Fiber connection. It's all about economics, SLAs, etc. and network management. They've already addressed this directly by mentioning how they plan on launching a business product eventually. I'm perfectly ok with that.

dragonwriter 12y ago

> Unless you're trying to run a commercial website from your apartment Actually, I'd say regulating on commercial vs. noncommercial rather than traffic or even, as a fairly blunt tool, a straight server ban is actually more of a violation of the "any legal software" rule (rather, its equally a violation of that rule, and its no longer even superficially about network management, the potential basis for exception to the rule, but instead is pure market segregation.)

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deathanatos 12y ago

And why shouldn't I be able to run a commercial server? But apparently a commercial client is okay? You don't mind me making money, you don't mind traffic, but you care very much which direction TCP connections are initiated, but only when there might be commercial activity involved? Why? (And "Too much traffic" isn't a valid answer here: if I have a client, I can use as much bandwidth as I like — respecting the other sections of the ToS, which are outside the scope of this discussion.)

brixon 12y ago
If you get a commercial account/connection then you should be fine. Even if it is not technical, it might be like garbage services in my area where commercial operations subsidize residential operations. Residential connections might be getting a discount that is paid by commercial entities and you would be cheating their pricing model.
- Consultant32452 12y ago
  I had never considered that before but I presume you're onto something there. There's likely some commercial interest or government subsidy/tax implications that come into play as to why business and residential pay different rates for the same line.
callesgg 12y ago
I would guess it has to do with liability. I can't run commercial stuff on my line either, according to my contract. I think it is pretty standard to have that in the contract. However I am way more concerned about other stuff in my contract.
binarycrusader 12y ago
Because they've priced their service and agreements at a level that assumes that someone isn't running a business using their super-cheap Google Fiber connection. It's all about economics, SLAs, etc. and network management. They've already addressed this directly by mentioning how they plan on launching a business product eventually. I'm perfectly ok with that.