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I think the main point here is: Agile Manifesto - put together after lots of thought and signed by acclaimed industry professionals. Async Manifesto - someone
by philbarr 12y ago
I think the main point here is:
Agile Manifesto - put together after lots of thought and signed by acclaimed industry professionals.
Async Manifesto - someone's opinion on a website.
- philbarr 12y agoI do wish people would reply with a decent criticism of my comment sometimes rather than simply downvote. I personally thought my comment was valid - it's not really a manifesto in the spirit of the Agile Manifesto if it's not agreed upon by lots of people, right? Disagree? Then please say why...
- kethinov 12y agoBecause you attacked the author, not the argument.
- philbarr 12y agoNo I didn't. I attacked the premise. Someone is attempting to piggyback the agile manifesto to express their own personal opinion. That opinion may or may not be valid, and is up for debate, but my point is that you can't just put up a website with your opinion on and say it's the "new" agile manifesto. The rest of the discussion on here is about whether those opinions are correct - I was addressing the fact that the real, original, agile manifesto wasn't just "some bloke's opinion", it was the opinions of well known thought leaders that had distilled their experience and knowledge into an easily understood manifesto.
- kethinov 12y agoAttacking the credibility of the author doesn't address the merits of the argument. It's an ad hominem attack.
- philbarr 12y agoI thought HN had moved away from calling everything an "ad hominem" but anyway - no it's not. I feel that my point is directly relevant. The Async "Manifesto" is just one person's opinion, it's not a group of thought leader's opinions. There's a huge and relevant difference. If he had called it, "my proposed new async manifesto" or something that would have been fine.