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Is one link to a study so much to ask for? If it's "basic facts" that surround this issue then why the controversy at all? I don't know the facts, as a reader

Is one link to a study so much to ask for? If it's "basic facts" that surround this issue then why the controversy at all? I don't know the facts, as a reader I'm here to learn. It's a weak piece due to its weak argument. I say weak argument because it has no foundation to build off of, at least not provided by the author. All that is provided is a tone that to think otherwise is nonsensical and silly. Bad science throws out "nonsensical" ideas without testing them. If the vaccine is safe you have to give me more than, "if you think otherwise you're dumb." I share the fear over bad drugs. Alleviate fear with knowledge and facts, not name calling.

deciplex 12y ago
Yes, it is too much to ask for, for the reasons I laid out. Expecting authors to spoon-feed basic facts to you every time they go to make an unrelated point, is expecting too much. How about you worry more about scientific consensus and less about 'controversy' that exists only on talk shows and in the drug-addled brain of Jenny McCarthy. If you want to know more about autism and vaccines, you can do the research on your own time. We have this thing called the Internet which should be of some use to you in this. In the meantime expect to be called out as a concern troll, for that is what you are.
- relampago 12y ago
  You can have your dogma. I'll be a concern troll who doesn't make major life decisions based on trendy opinions. I will do the research. Thank you for the intelligent debate. Ideology is the enemy of free thinking.
  - deciplex 12y ago
    Distractions in the form of irrelevant minutia from concern trolls about problems that don't exist and questions that have already been asked and answered a thousand times, are the enemy of clear thinking and efficient discussion. And, it's not dogma. Show me the evidence that vaccines cause autism or are contraindicated for any other reason and I will engage it.
    - relampago 12y ago
      I'm skeptical of all pharmaceuticals and I think history details why we all should. Millions have died from recalled drugs and currently pharmaceuticals are the 4th leading cause of death in America. According to the CDC, common substances in vaccines include: Aluminum, Formaldehyde, Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and Thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative). Source: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm I mean really? I won't put these substances in my body and anyone looking at this objectively can see the obvious problems with this. I don't think the "debate is over," and anyone claiming that it is has an ulterior motive. Aluminum, Formaldehyde and MSG? I can't believe this.
      - deciplex 12y ago
        If it were anything else, I wouldn't care, and would actually encourage you to forgo whatever medical treatment it is you have this irrational aversion to, with a view to improving the overall genetic health of our species. However, this is herd immunity we're talking about, and unfortunately you and your unvaccinated progeny make everyone else more likely to get sick. This is why I support forced, universal, vaccinations. At any rate, did you know they make soda cans out of aluminum, too? And formaldehyde is used in such a wide variety of products that focusing on vaccines in particular make me pretty sure you have an ulterior motive.
        relampago 12y ago
        Like I said, you can have your dogma. Irrationality is to believe something based on faith alone and to ignore contradictory evidence. >At any rate, did you know they make soda cans out of aluminum, too? And formaldehyde is used in such a wide variety of products that focusing on vaccines in particular make me pretty sure you have an ulterior motive. According to the United States Department of Health and Human Services National Toxicology Program, formaldehyde which "is used in such a wide variety of products," is known to be a human carcinogen. That means it causes cancer. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry "Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer’s disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer’s disease." While they don't present a clear opinion one way or the other on aluminum's relationship to neurological disorders, I'll use common sense and not consume foods on a regular basis in which heavy metals may reside. Sources: http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=035E57E7-BDD9-2D9B-AFB9D1CADC8D09C1 http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=035E57E7-BDD9-2D9B-AFB9D1... http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1076&tid=34 http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1076&tid=34

deciplex 12y ago

Yes, it is too much to ask for, for the reasons I laid out. Expecting authors to spoon-feed basic facts to you every time they go to make an unrelated point, is expecting too much. How about you worry more about scientific consensus and less about 'controversy' that exists only on talk shows and in the drug-addled brain of Jenny McCarthy. If you want to know more about autism and vaccines, you can do the research on your own time. We have this thing called the Internet which should be of some use to you in this. In the meantime expect to be called out as a concern troll, for that is what you are.

relampago 12y ago
You can have your dogma. I'll be a concern troll who doesn't make major life decisions based on trendy opinions. I will do the research. Thank you for the intelligent debate. Ideology is the enemy of free thinking.
- deciplex 12y ago
  Distractions in the form of irrelevant minutia from concern trolls about problems that don't exist and questions that have already been asked and answered a thousand times, are the enemy of clear thinking and efficient discussion. And, it's not dogma. Show me the evidence that vaccines cause autism or are contraindicated for any other reason and I will engage it.
  - relampago 12y ago
    I'm skeptical of all pharmaceuticals and I think history details why we all should. Millions have died from recalled drugs and currently pharmaceuticals are the 4th leading cause of death in America. According to the CDC, common substances in vaccines include: Aluminum, Formaldehyde, Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and Thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative). Source: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm I mean really? I won't put these substances in my body and anyone looking at this objectively can see the obvious problems with this. I don't think the "debate is over," and anyone claiming that it is has an ulterior motive. Aluminum, Formaldehyde and MSG? I can't believe this.
    - deciplex 12y ago
      If it were anything else, I wouldn't care, and would actually encourage you to forgo whatever medical treatment it is you have this irrational aversion to, with a view to improving the overall genetic health of our species. However, this is herd immunity we're talking about, and unfortunately you and your unvaccinated progeny make everyone else more likely to get sick. This is why I support forced, universal, vaccinations. At any rate, did you know they make soda cans out of aluminum, too? And formaldehyde is used in such a wide variety of products that focusing on vaccines in particular make me pretty sure you have an ulterior motive.
      - relampago 12y ago
        Like I said, you can have your dogma. Irrationality is to believe something based on faith alone and to ignore contradictory evidence. >At any rate, did you know they make soda cans out of aluminum, too? And formaldehyde is used in such a wide variety of products that focusing on vaccines in particular make me pretty sure you have an ulterior motive. According to the United States Department of Health and Human Services National Toxicology Program, formaldehyde which "is used in such a wide variety of products," is known to be a human carcinogen. That means it causes cancer. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry "Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer’s disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer’s disease." While they don't present a clear opinion one way or the other on aluminum's relationship to neurological disorders, I'll use common sense and not consume foods on a regular basis in which heavy metals may reside. Sources: http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=035E57E7-BDD9-2D9B-AFB9D1CADC8D09C1 http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=035E57E7-BDD9-2D9B-AFB9D1... http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1076&tid=34 http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1076&tid=34