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do you have sources for the latency numbers for kinect on xbox one? I've searched and can't find anything concrete and the XDK isn't publicly available. and th

do you have sources for the latency numbers for kinect on xbox one? I've searched and can't find anything concrete and the XDK isn't publicly available. and this might downvote me into oblivion, but is using "M$" still a thing? I don't see how that helps a discussion.

rasz_pl 12y ago
Unofficial Kinect one docs say 20ms depth sensor latency, this is same as 50fps vision camera so no lag there. They also say 60ms for tracking versus 90ms of original Kinect. Problem is original kinect did >100ms at minimum, and topped at 500ms http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/imda/sites/www.nrl.navy.mil.itd.imda/files/pdfs/2012_VRposter_kinectSkelPerf.pdf http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/imda/sites/www.nrl.navy.mil.itd.... We experienced maximum latencies of nearly 500 ms M$ will cease to be a thing when Microsoft stops dropping Billion dollars on every problem (kinect pr, original xbox pr, surface writeof)
- prawn 12y ago
  M$ is juvenile. Big companies will tend to spend up on building and then promoting their products. What's the shame in that?
  - protonfish 12y ago
    The shame is with enough money pigs can fly. If the product you were making was something of quality that people wanted, you wouldn't need billions to ram it down the public's throat. (You'd probably only need hundreds of thousands.)
    - prawn 12y ago
      How are you going to quantify what constitutes normal advertising and what is "ramming it down throats"?
      - rasz_pl 12y ago
        You decide, how would you classify paying people from third world countries to spam YT with "product reviews" in broken english?
  - rasz_pl 12y ago
    They arent spending on building brands, they are trying to directly buy users. Bribes in form of discounts, "cross promotion" deals that in effect mean they give you stuff for free just to brag in the press how you use it. Huge FUD campaigns. M$ does it all. Recently mentioned on HN Gopro is an excellent contrast. Bottom up organic marketing, investing in events, users and activities. Touching peoples lifes. Concentrating on positives, not gimmicks or attacking competition. Microsoft is simply hostile and out of touch. Money is their only language.
    - prawn 12y ago
      GoPro does cross promotion with TV/media companies and they often run discount coupons to attract sales. This is what companies do to promote their products. Microsoft also invests in events, users and activities.

rasz_pl 12y ago

Unofficial Kinect one docs say 20ms depth sensor latency, this is same as 50fps vision camera so no lag there. They also say 60ms for tracking versus 90ms of original Kinect. Problem is original kinect did >100ms at minimum, and topped at 500ms http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/imda/sites/www.nrl.navy.mil.itd.imda/files/pdfs/2012_VRposter_kinectSkelPerf.pdf http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/imda/sites/www.nrl.navy.mil.itd.... We experienced maximum latencies of nearly 500 ms M$ will cease to be a thing when Microsoft stops dropping Billion dollars on every problem (kinect pr, original xbox pr, surface writeof)

prawn 12y ago
M$ is juvenile. Big companies will tend to spend up on building and then promoting their products. What's the shame in that?
- protonfish 12y ago
  The shame is with enough money pigs can fly. If the product you were making was something of quality that people wanted, you wouldn't need billions to ram it down the public's throat. (You'd probably only need hundreds of thousands.)
  - prawn 12y ago
    How are you going to quantify what constitutes normal advertising and what is "ramming it down throats"?
    - rasz_pl 12y ago
      You decide, how would you classify paying people from third world countries to spam YT with "product reviews" in broken english?
- rasz_pl 12y ago
  They arent spending on building brands, they are trying to directly buy users. Bribes in form of discounts, "cross promotion" deals that in effect mean they give you stuff for free just to brag in the press how you use it. Huge FUD campaigns. M$ does it all. Recently mentioned on HN Gopro is an excellent contrast. Bottom up organic marketing, investing in events, users and activities. Touching peoples lifes. Concentrating on positives, not gimmicks or attacking competition. Microsoft is simply hostile and out of touch. Money is their only language.
  - prawn 12y ago
    GoPro does cross promotion with TV/media companies and they often run discount coupons to attract sales. This is what companies do to promote their products. Microsoft also invests in events, users and activities.