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Prediction: they are going to get to an agreement pretty soon. MS seems to react quite quickly recently.

yiedyie 12y ago
Given the recent issues between the two governments on cybernetic issues, I guess its sensible for MS to discuss it first home and then react. That would slow the reaction a bit.
- tokai 12y ago
  What cybernetic issues? Du you even know what cybernetics means?
  - yiedyie 12y ago
    sorry, cybernetic spying issues, I meant
Already__Taken 12y ago
I doubt it, China would only be happy if they could vet & build the source code themselves. MS wouldn't be too clever to give them that. If this is really about security and not to pull off exactly that above.
- drdaeman 12y ago
  Rumors say, that happened with Russia with Windows 7 (and I've heard similar stories about Windows 98, 2000 and XP). Why not China? http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-secret-service-3040089481/ http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-...
  - Already__Taken 12y ago
    In my completely uneducated opinion based on heresy China seems to care a great deal less about intellectual property, patents and licencing right of companies that aren't Chinese. Given its regular practice of trying to get companies to manufacture goods in Chine to steal their process' and technology. This is also the exact reason SpaceX don't file patents and do not use anything from Microsoft.
    - drdaeman 12y ago
      You see, Russia isn't that caring about copyrights, too. There were relatively recent (this happened after Windows XP release) industry lobbying that led to massive rewrite of copyright laws, but illegal copying is still nearly ubiquitous.
- riquito 12y ago
  MS gives you sources to audit if you pay enough, and the builds may be deterministic.
- drzaiusapelord 12y ago
  Shared Source initiative. Many organizations already have this. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-security-program.aspx https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-secu...

Given the recent issues between the two governments on cybernetic issues, I guess its sensible for MS to discuss it first home and then react. That would slow the reaction a bit.

tokai 12y ago
What cybernetic issues? Du you even know what cybernetics means?
- yiedyie 12y ago
  sorry, cybernetic spying issues, I meant

Already__Taken 12y ago

I doubt it, China would only be happy if they could vet & build the source code themselves. MS wouldn't be too clever to give them that. If this is really about security and not to pull off exactly that above.

drdaeman 12y ago
Rumors say, that happened with Russia with Windows 7 (and I've heard similar stories about Windows 98, 2000 and XP). Why not China? http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-secret-service-3040089481/ http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-...
- Already__Taken 12y ago
  In my completely uneducated opinion based on heresy China seems to care a great deal less about intellectual property, patents and licencing right of companies that aren't Chinese. Given its regular practice of trying to get companies to manufacture goods in Chine to steal their process' and technology. This is also the exact reason SpaceX don't file patents and do not use anything from Microsoft.
  - drdaeman 12y ago
    You see, Russia isn't that caring about copyrights, too. There were relatively recent (this happened after Windows XP release) industry lobbying that led to massive rewrite of copyright laws, but illegal copying is still nearly ubiquitous.
riquito 12y ago
MS gives you sources to audit if you pay enough, and the builds may be deterministic.
drzaiusapelord 12y ago
Shared Source initiative. Many organizations already have this. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-security-program.aspx https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-secu...