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That's not the same thing as stealing trade secrets and giving them to a domestic company.
by mikecb 12y ago
That's not the same thing as stealing trade secrets and giving them to a domestic company.
- loceng 12y agoTrue, though then France and other countries should be filing charges against the U.S. then, right?
- mikecb 12y agoTrue, and they are welcome to do so, though France might not be in the best position given the breadth and depth of its reported economic espionage of specific trade secrets and such.
- bilbo0s 12y agoSo... and this question is for anyone... what does any of this mean ???? Is it all basically posturing and everyone is stealing secrets from everyone whenever anyone can ??? I mean... does this just mean that the US is the only country that actually sued anyone for it ? I mean... even though we do the same thing too as anon1385 pointed out?
- codyb 12y agoWe're just playing dirty to make sure everyone else plays fair! To be fair, I do agree with you.
- mikecb 12y agoOur leaders ask for intelligence about the activities of foreign nations and foreign companies. The US naturally avoids such actions because we have, in many cases, the most to lose, and tu quoque leads to MAD.
- anon1385 12y agoThe European Parliament report is here: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+REPORT+A5-2001-0264+0+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//... Here is an example: Who: NSA, What: Wind wheel for electricity generation, developed by Aloys Wobben, an engineer from East Frisia, Aim: Forwarding of technical details of Wobben's wind wheel to a US firm, Consequences: US firm patents the wind wheel before Wobben; (breach of patent rights) Sounds exactly like "stealing trade secrets and giving them to a domestic company" to me.
- mikecb 12y agoI couldn't find the original source "Aktenkriegerì, SZ, 29 March 2001", but it sounds like a news report. If you can find the source, I would be happy to read it and judge it based upon its reported sources.
- asn0 12y agohttp://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlantic-espionage-claimed-german-wind-company http://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlanti... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon#Patent_dispute http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon#Patent_dispute "the patent in question was registered in 1991, three years before the alleged espionage event"
- eliteraspberrie 12y agoThe European Parliament report cites a single journalist, Nicky Hager. This particular allegation was based on interviews with anonymous French intelligence sources. Basically, the French government selectively leaked to a New Zealand journalist, to justify retaliation (tariffs at the EU level, which never materialized) against the US government for burning their Saudi deal. There has never been any credible evidence that US intelligence agencies pass trade secrets to American companies.