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Currency - dollar. hm... what is the right pricing?

by shtpavel 12y ago

drcoopster 12y ago
I'd multiply that by at least 5 if you're in the US and you're any good.
- shtpavel 12y ago
  Nope, i'm from Eastern Europe.
  - hackerboos 12y ago
    Multiply it by 3 then. Edit: Let me clarify - not saying that Eastern European programmers are better or worse but the living costs are obviously lower in Eastern Europe than say Western Europe.
    - zura 12y ago
      Not necessary. I'm from Georgia, eastern Europe. I was astonished during my recent visit in Berlin of how cheap it is, especially groceries/food, clothes, toys, etc... I was also comparing prices in San Diego, California, and it was quite on par with Georgia. The main reason eastern Europe appears cheap is the human labour - people are just used to low income...
      - shtpavel 12y ago
        Love Georgia) but I broked my hip in Gudauri this February ))
        zura 12y ago
        The summer season should be more safe I think ;)
        shtpavel 12y ago
        I hope. Have to visit Batumi.
      - insuffi 12y ago
        Can't agree more. US west coast prices are terrifyingly similar to prices in the Baltic States(unless you're living in a metropolis such as NYC). Something to remember: It doesn't matter that you're from Ukraine. It matters where the company you work remotely for is stationed. If you find a company in the US or western EU willing to hire you, you can probably ask for their domestic market rates :) Good luck.
        zura 12y ago
        Yes. Actually, some companies have policies that they research local salaries and offer accordingly. Needless to say, I don't work for such companies.
    - shtpavel 12y ago
      It's true. I agree.
    - tobal 12y ago
      I'm working in Hungary as a software engineer, and get about 10$/hour (although I have only 5 years of experience in development). Also, I get more than most of my peers from the university, so it's not that low because I'm a shitty developer :). With this salary, I'm a very well paid employee compared to others in the country, it's about 3 times more than the average salary.
  - Jean-Philipe 12y ago
    Eastern Europe or whatever - if you are any good, people from Western Europe would pay you at least something more like EUR 30.
    - shtpavel 12y ago
      Oh, It will be great if I'll find this rate even for my current tech-spec. (.NET)
  - kondro 12y ago
    I currently pay Polish developers USD$40/hour.
    - shtpavel 12y ago
      I'm from Ukraine, even not EU
- nnnn 12y ago
  drcoopster is right. I know how much people make in Eastern Europe also in Asia. USD 5-15/hr is more than average, but I realize this is the reason programmer out of the western nations are so underpaid and undervalues. Opportunist take advantage and low ball all of us. We need to stick together.

Currency - dollar. hm... what is the right pricing?

drcoopster 12y ago

I'd multiply that by at least 5 if you're in the US and you're any good.

shtpavel 12y ago
Nope, i'm from Eastern Europe.
- hackerboos 12y ago
  Multiply it by 3 then. Edit: Let me clarify - not saying that Eastern European programmers are better or worse but the living costs are obviously lower in Eastern Europe than say Western Europe.
  - zura 12y ago
    Not necessary. I'm from Georgia, eastern Europe. I was astonished during my recent visit in Berlin of how cheap it is, especially groceries/food, clothes, toys, etc... I was also comparing prices in San Diego, California, and it was quite on par with Georgia. The main reason eastern Europe appears cheap is the human labour - people are just used to low income...
    - shtpavel 12y ago
      Love Georgia) but I broked my hip in Gudauri this February ))
      - zura 12y ago
        The summer season should be more safe I think ;)
        shtpavel 12y ago
        I hope. Have to visit Batumi.
    - insuffi 12y ago
      Can't agree more. US west coast prices are terrifyingly similar to prices in the Baltic States(unless you're living in a metropolis such as NYC). Something to remember: It doesn't matter that you're from Ukraine. It matters where the company you work remotely for is stationed. If you find a company in the US or western EU willing to hire you, you can probably ask for their domestic market rates :) Good luck.
      - zura 12y ago
        Yes. Actually, some companies have policies that they research local salaries and offer accordingly. Needless to say, I don't work for such companies.
  - shtpavel 12y ago
    It's true. I agree.
  - tobal 12y ago
    I'm working in Hungary as a software engineer, and get about 10$/hour (although I have only 5 years of experience in development). Also, I get more than most of my peers from the university, so it's not that low because I'm a shitty developer :). With this salary, I'm a very well paid employee compared to others in the country, it's about 3 times more than the average salary.
- Jean-Philipe 12y ago
  Eastern Europe or whatever - if you are any good, people from Western Europe would pay you at least something more like EUR 30.
  - shtpavel 12y ago
    Oh, It will be great if I'll find this rate even for my current tech-spec. (.NET)
- kondro 12y ago
  I currently pay Polish developers USD$40/hour.
  - shtpavel 12y ago
    I'm from Ukraine, even not EU
nnnn 12y ago
drcoopster is right. I know how much people make in Eastern Europe also in Asia. USD 5-15/hr is more than average, but I realize this is the reason programmer out of the western nations are so underpaid and undervalues. Opportunist take advantage and low ball all of us. We need to stick together.