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I am really having a hard time seeing the value in this. All of the mentioned hosting services provide control panels that allow you to quickly provision a serv

I am really having a hard time seeing the value in this. All of the mentioned hosting services provide control panels that allow you to quickly provision a server. Running git pull from Github is pretty simple. I love Laravel and want to support Taylor but I'm just not seeing the benefit.

meritt 12y ago
It's not simply provisioning the server. It's also installing all the relevant packages, configuration, and deployment. The value is toward people who don't have the sysadmin/devops skills (or perhaps time) to manage that themselves.
- ForHackernews 12y ago
  Are there not existing Chef/Puppet recipes that will do this for you? I guess it gives you a nice web front-end, and maybe a bit of confidence that the configuration was designed by a professional?
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    Chef/Puppet are way too hefty for many small sites/devs. There are a lot of devs out there still setting up servers by hand who'd jump at something like Forge.
    - debaserab2 12y ago
      Puppet provisions fine on an EC2 micro instance. It's no heftier than the software you'd want it to install to run your site anyways.
      - ceejayoz 12y ago
        Hefty in learning curve, not system resources.
        jtreminio 12y ago
        I created a FOSS project called PuPHPet[0] to help with the learning curve. So far it's been well received! [0] https://puphpet.com https://puphpet.com
        debaserab2 12y ago
        PuPHPet is a great project. It served as great "training wheels" for me while I was learning vagrant+puppet. Thanks for making it.
    - andrewchilds 12y ago
      This is why I built Overcast. It's a CLI tool so there's no GUI, but I've tried to make it conceptually simple and possible to pick up right away: overcast digitalocean create my-app overcast run my-app install/core install/php install/apache install/mysql http://andrewchilds.github.io/overcast/ http://andrewchilds.github.io/overcast/
- thestepafter 12y ago
  Ok, thank you for the explanation. I can see how this would be more helpful for people without as much experience.

meritt 12y ago

It's not simply provisioning the server. It's also installing all the relevant packages, configuration, and deployment. The value is toward people who don't have the sysadmin/devops skills (or perhaps time) to manage that themselves.

ForHackernews 12y ago
Are there not existing Chef/Puppet recipes that will do this for you? I guess it gives you a nice web front-end, and maybe a bit of confidence that the configuration was designed by a professional?
- ceejayoz 12y ago
  Chef/Puppet are way too hefty for many small sites/devs. There are a lot of devs out there still setting up servers by hand who'd jump at something like Forge.
  - debaserab2 12y ago
    Puppet provisions fine on an EC2 micro instance. It's no heftier than the software you'd want it to install to run your site anyways.
    - ceejayoz 12y ago
      Hefty in learning curve, not system resources.
      - jtreminio 12y ago
        I created a FOSS project called PuPHPet[0] to help with the learning curve. So far it's been well received! [0] https://puphpet.com https://puphpet.com
        debaserab2 12y ago
        PuPHPet is a great project. It served as great "training wheels" for me while I was learning vagrant+puppet. Thanks for making it.
  - andrewchilds 12y ago
    This is why I built Overcast. It's a CLI tool so there's no GUI, but I've tried to make it conceptually simple and possible to pick up right away: overcast digitalocean create my-app overcast run my-app install/core install/php install/apache install/mysql http://andrewchilds.github.io/overcast/ http://andrewchilds.github.io/overcast/
thestepafter 12y ago
Ok, thank you for the explanation. I can see how this would be more helpful for people without as much experience.