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A link to the post in question https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106 If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say th

by mef 12y ago

A link to the post in question https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106 If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say the downvotes are more for the claims of a miracle cure-all smoothie than for some sort of perceived self-promotion.

joel_perl_prog 12y ago
I guess I'm not allowed to participate in the discussion, I've had to delete several comments already that were getting steadily down-voted. It's not a claim to be a miracle or cure-all. This is exactly the type of cynical, know-it-all bullshit that frustrates me so much. It's nothing else but a claim, based on years of my own personal experience, to the benefits I myself have experienced, and the benefits others have experienced. And they've been more than happy to share with me. I brace myself now for more down votes, since here I reply in a reasonable and conversation-furthering manner. =/
- SandB0x 12y ago
  http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downmod you.
- frozenport 12y ago
  >>It's not a claim to be a miracle or cure-all. Read what you wrote: >>>>If you add this smoothie to your daily life, and change nothing else, you will feel better. A lot better. How? >>>>you will feel better and experience benefits. What kind of benefits?
- bkmartin 12y ago
  Its about anecdotal vs empirical evidence. And lets face it, all these miracle foods are being promoted (in the general health food market) as some saving grace to health. And they are doing it claiming to be, basically, a magic pill. Just put a dash of this, or a spoon of that, into your smoothie or onto some toast or into your oatmeal and BAM! Now you're healthy! You might be feeling great, but have you done a scientific study to know if its just a placebo effect? My guess is that its not a placebo effect, but not because it has "super foods" in it. But because it has "FOOD" in it. As in, good whole and natural foods. I'm not a vegetarian, or anything close to that. But as a society, we need to eat healthier. This, is something that we should be touting. Eat fruits and vegetables - the more color the better. Eat less highly enriched starches and other highly processed foods. You don't have to stop eating everything that's unhealthy, you have to enjoy life. But if we all ate our recommended servings of fruit and veg we'd be reversing lots of obesity just because we were being intentional about our nutrition. And that is what it boils down to.
mercer 12y ago
Yeah, I think it's more the tone of the article that bothers people. It's strong with the 'I found Jesus, have you heard about Jesus, let me tell you about Jesus.' What I find difficult about that is that I absolutely support someone who is excited about their epiphanies (especially when I think they're good ones!), but it can be really hard to not feel judged or to get annoyed or even downright angry.

by mef 12y ago

joel_perl_prog 12y ago

I guess I'm not allowed to participate in the discussion, I've had to delete several comments already that were getting steadily down-voted. It's not a claim to be a miracle or cure-all. This is exactly the type of cynical, know-it-all bullshit that frustrates me so much. It's nothing else but a claim, based on years of my own personal experience, to the benefits I myself have experienced, and the benefits others have experienced. And they've been more than happy to share with me. I brace myself now for more down votes, since here I reply in a reasonable and conversation-furthering manner. =/

SandB0x 12y ago
http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downmod you.
frozenport 12y ago
>>It's not a claim to be a miracle or cure-all. Read what you wrote: >>>>If you add this smoothie to your daily life, and change nothing else, you will feel better. A lot better. How? >>>>you will feel better and experience benefits. What kind of benefits?
bkmartin 12y ago
Its about anecdotal vs empirical evidence. And lets face it, all these miracle foods are being promoted (in the general health food market) as some saving grace to health. And they are doing it claiming to be, basically, a magic pill. Just put a dash of this, or a spoon of that, into your smoothie or onto some toast or into your oatmeal and BAM! Now you're healthy! You might be feeling great, but have you done a scientific study to know if its just a placebo effect? My guess is that its not a placebo effect, but not because it has "super foods" in it. But because it has "FOOD" in it. As in, good whole and natural foods. I'm not a vegetarian, or anything close to that. But as a society, we need to eat healthier. This, is something that we should be touting. Eat fruits and vegetables - the more color the better. Eat less highly enriched starches and other highly processed foods. You don't have to stop eating everything that's unhealthy, you have to enjoy life. But if we all ate our recommended servings of fruit and veg we'd be reversing lots of obesity just because we were being intentional about our nutrition. And that is what it boils down to.

mercer 12y ago

Yeah, I think it's more the tone of the article that bothers people. It's strong with the 'I found Jesus, have you heard about Jesus, let me tell you about Jesus.' What I find difficult about that is that I absolutely support someone who is excited about their epiphanies (especially when I think they're good ones!), but it can be really hard to not feel judged or to get annoyed or even downright angry.