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And so begins the biggest experiment in human nutrition since the Dutch Famine of 1944.

by Pitarou 12y ago

jacquesm 12y ago
You must be unaware of the famines raging in 2014 and just about any year before that in other parts of the world. The Dutch certainly had a hard time of it in '44 (my grandmother's diary is amazing reading) but it does not in any way compare to some of the stuff going on TODAY and on a MUCH larger scale.
- Pitarou 12y ago
  So I'm aware of a famine that took place 70 years ago, but unaware of the many that have taken place since then. You really think that, do you? Do you see how, by habitually assuming the other guy knows less than you, you've made yourself look dumb?
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    Not sure what to answer to, this or the original comment you posted. My mom was born in 1943 a little bit before the hunger winter hit, so I'm well aware of the effects of the hunger winter on the Dutch population. As for making myself look dumb, you seem to want to make this a personal issue, I merely think it is strange to put soylent green in the context of the hunger winter of '44 when we have far more recent examples that are much higher impact. And those have been studied extensively as well, and their aftermath is happening right now.
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    - Pitarou 12y ago
      The remark "You must be unaware of..." was personally directed at me so, yes, I took it personally.
      - jacquesm 12y ago
        Ah I see, dumb assumption on my side. Apologies.
- dingaling 12y ago
  The interesting factor of the Dutch famine in 1944 was that it occurred in one region of a fairly isotropic 'developed' country, in a society where masses of scientific and psychological measurements could be conducted for decades afterwards. These could be compared with the same metrics for people in the unaffected regions. That's not something that occurs after most famines, in which the survivors are generally anonymous.
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    Right, that's the relevant difference. Thank you for the explanation. The 'cohort' being that isolated in space and time must have helped. I can't see how soylent green users will be subjecting themselves to the same kind of analysis but that may be another example of my ignorance.
vincentkriek 12y ago
And you could argue that tulip bulbs are nicer to eat than Soylent.
Shorel 12y ago
The two biggest experiments in human nutrition currently happening are in the /r/keto and /r/paleo subreddits. Well, not really, they are lots of people not in reddit who are also part of them. Example of their influence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_butter_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_butter_crisis

And so begins the biggest experiment in human nutrition since the Dutch Famine of 1944.

by Pitarou 12y ago

And so begins the biggest experiment in human nutrition since the Dutch Famine of 1944.

You must be unaware of the famines raging in 2014 and just about any year before that in other parts of the world. The Dutch certainly had a hard time of it in '44 (my grandmother's diary is amazing reading) but it does not in any way compare to some of the stuff going on TODAY and on a MUCH larger scale.

Pitarou 12y ago
So I'm aware of a famine that took place 70 years ago, but unaware of the many that have taken place since then. You really think that, do you? Do you see how, by habitually assuming the other guy knows less than you, you've made yourself look dumb?
- jacquesm 12y ago
  Not sure what to answer to, this or the original comment you posted. My mom was born in 1943 a little bit before the hunger winter hit, so I'm well aware of the effects of the hunger winter on the Dutch population. As for making myself look dumb, you seem to want to make this a personal issue, I merely think it is strange to put soylent green in the context of the hunger winter of '44 when we have far more recent examples that are much higher impact. And those have been studied extensively as well, and their aftermath is happening right now.
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  - Pitarou 12y ago
    The remark "You must be unaware of..." was personally directed at me so, yes, I took it personally.
    - jacquesm 12y ago
      Ah I see, dumb assumption on my side. Apologies.
dingaling 12y ago
The interesting factor of the Dutch famine in 1944 was that it occurred in one region of a fairly isotropic 'developed' country, in a society where masses of scientific and psychological measurements could be conducted for decades afterwards. These could be compared with the same metrics for people in the unaffected regions. That's not something that occurs after most famines, in which the survivors are generally anonymous.
- jacquesm 12y ago
  Right, that's the relevant difference. Thank you for the explanation. The 'cohort' being that isolated in space and time must have helped. I can't see how soylent green users will be subjecting themselves to the same kind of analysis but that may be another example of my ignorance.

vincentkriek 12y ago

And you could argue that tulip bulbs are nicer to eat than Soylent.

Shorel 12y ago

The two biggest experiments in human nutrition currently happening are in the /r/keto and /r/paleo subreddits. Well, not really, they are lots of people not in reddit who are also part of them. Example of their influence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_butter_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_butter_crisis