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Twitch community is also pretty toxic. Most of the time the biggest streamers put their chats in sub mode (paying supporters) to avoid it.

tehwebguy 12y ago
Recently I noted an anecdotal improvement: more gamers seem to be saying that a winning player "shit on" another player instead of saying they "raped" them.
- AndyKelley 12y ago
  And why is that better? After you think of an answer, replace occurrences of "rape" with "shit on" and you'll have my counter-argument.
hornetblack 12y ago
Seems a bit like Something Awful. They have a one time fee before you can post anything.
- mutagen 12y ago
  I've seen this model successfully used on a variety of small and medium sized communities, Metafilter likely the largest example. While it doesn't seem to generate runaway fortunes, it allows online communities to survive the onslaught of spam and trolls.
jewbacca 12y ago
The Twitch chat is half the value of the stream-watching experience for me. The "character" of the Twitch chat is valuable. The manically insane hivemind, with all the juvenilia and "shittiness" that is inherent to it, is a roiling primordial stew of genuinely worthwhile culture. It's the birthplace of memes in both the vulgar sense and the higher sense of that word, and, to me, feels like 4chan in its early days. The ecstatic chaos of the chat during an unmanageably large event is a unique and deeply valuable thing. It was why Twitch Plays Pokemon was such a massive phenomenon. Channels which set their chats to subscriber-only mode are shooting themselves in the foot. I've always desperately craved a comparable live mass chat experience for non-gaming-related events, eg during a football game, or a televised cultural event or major news story.
- n09n 12y ago
  It's called twitter.
- addandsubtract 12y ago
  >Channels which set their chats to subscriber-only mode are shooting themselves in the foot. I think both chat modes (sub and free for all) have their place and time. I enjoy chats that are put into sub-mode, just to read a sensible conversation and have the streamer answer interesting questions, that she otherwise wouldn't have picked up on. On the other hand, some stream chats live off of the chaos that is twitch chat.
  - jewbacca 12y ago
    Good point. I would amend that to "large events and tournaments with subscriber-only chats are poisoning their own hype."
robryan 12y ago
It can be, what people describe it as though is it is the digital equivalent to going to for example a football game. There is going to be a lot of toxic statements/ yelling made there as well but overall it adds to the hype of the event. If you are watching a match with 100k people on Twitch of course there isn't going to be any valuable back and forward in chat but the chat stream as a whole adds to the experience.

tehwebguy 12y ago

Recently I noted an anecdotal improvement: more gamers seem to be saying that a winning player "shit on" another player instead of saying they "raped" them.

AndyKelley 12y ago
And why is that better? After you think of an answer, replace occurrences of "rape" with "shit on" and you'll have my counter-argument.

hornetblack 12y ago

Seems a bit like Something Awful. They have a one time fee before you can post anything.

mutagen 12y ago
I've seen this model successfully used on a variety of small and medium sized communities, Metafilter likely the largest example. While it doesn't seem to generate runaway fortunes, it allows online communities to survive the onslaught of spam and trolls.

jewbacca 12y ago

The Twitch chat is half the value of the stream-watching experience for me. The "character" of the Twitch chat is valuable. The manically insane hivemind, with all the juvenilia and "shittiness" that is inherent to it, is a roiling primordial stew of genuinely worthwhile culture. It's the birthplace of memes in both the vulgar sense and the higher sense of that word, and, to me, feels like 4chan in its early days. The ecstatic chaos of the chat during an unmanageably large event is a unique and deeply valuable thing. It was why Twitch Plays Pokemon was such a massive phenomenon. Channels which set their chats to subscriber-only mode are shooting themselves in the foot. I've always desperately craved a comparable live mass chat experience for non-gaming-related events, eg during a football game, or a televised cultural event or major news story.

n09n 12y ago
It's called twitter.
addandsubtract 12y ago
>Channels which set their chats to subscriber-only mode are shooting themselves in the foot. I think both chat modes (sub and free for all) have their place and time. I enjoy chats that are put into sub-mode, just to read a sensible conversation and have the streamer answer interesting questions, that she otherwise wouldn't have picked up on. On the other hand, some stream chats live off of the chaos that is twitch chat.
- jewbacca 12y ago
  Good point. I would amend that to "large events and tournaments with subscriber-only chats are poisoning their own hype."

robryan 12y ago

It can be, what people describe it as though is it is the digital equivalent to going to for example a football game. There is going to be a lot of toxic statements/ yelling made there as well but overall it adds to the hype of the event. If you are watching a match with 100k people on Twitch of course there isn't going to be any valuable back and forward in chat but the chat stream as a whole adds to the experience.