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A spammy link is a link created on behalf of the target site. In this case the author says he created the link independently, because he thought it would be us

by pygy_ 12y ago

A spammy link is a link created on behalf of the target site. In this case the author says he created the link independently, because he thought it would be useful to his users. That's, by definition, a genuine, organic link. I wonder if a link flagged by the disavow tool and confirmed by the user weaken the Google juice of the source site. @MattCutts (or another Googler), is it the case?

magicalist 12y ago
It seems like it would be odd to not incorporate a "spamminess" measure into the strength of the link, so hopefully you'd be losing very little.
Matt_Cutts 12y ago
"I wonder if a link flagged by the disavow tool and confirmed by the user weaken the Google juice of the source site." We haven't been using disavowed links as a reason not to trust a source site. So it wouldn't weaken the Google juice of the author's/source site if the company that sent the email had just disavowed the link.
- pygy_ 12y ago
  Good to know, and thanks for the answer.
- davemel37 12y ago
  This in no way implies Google won't use the disavow data to not trust source sites in the future.
jonknee 12y ago
> In this case the author says he created the link independently, because he thought it would be useful to his users. That's, by definition, a genuine, organic link. Genuine organic links can still be spammy. The OP seems to be a genuine affiliate marketer/spammer, it's not inconceivable that his links aren't treated with a ton of respect.
- pygy_ 12y ago
  That's a genuinely good point :-)
- aaronwall 12y ago
  Affiliate marketer & spammer are not natural synonyms. Some entities might try to say it is six of one & a half dozen of the other, http://www.seobook.com/brand-vs-affiliate-vs-spam http://www.seobook.com/brand-vs-affiliate-vs-spam but those same entities do not view their own affiliate marketing efforts as spam, even when they are pure spam http://www.seobook.com/google-lends-a-helping-hand http://www.seobook.com/google-lends-a-helping-hand Look at the cloaked affiliate YouTube links to iTunes on music videos. And Google has invested in Viglink, RetailMeNot, etc. In addition to those types of investments, it was Google's ad programs which funded entities like Mahalo & eHow. There are zero affiliates which have made as much off affiliate marketing as Google has.

by pygy_ 12y ago

magicalist 12y ago

It seems like it would be odd to not incorporate a "spamminess" measure into the strength of the link, so hopefully you'd be losing very little.

Matt_Cutts 12y ago

"I wonder if a link flagged by the disavow tool and confirmed by the user weaken the Google juice of the source site." We haven't been using disavowed links as a reason not to trust a source site. So it wouldn't weaken the Google juice of the author's/source site if the company that sent the email had just disavowed the link.

pygy_ 12y ago
Good to know, and thanks for the answer.
davemel37 12y ago
This in no way implies Google won't use the disavow data to not trust source sites in the future.

jonknee 12y ago

> In this case the author says he created the link independently, because he thought it would be useful to his users. That's, by definition, a genuine, organic link. Genuine organic links can still be spammy. The OP seems to be a genuine affiliate marketer/spammer, it's not inconceivable that his links aren't treated with a ton of respect.

pygy_ 12y ago
That's a genuinely good point :-)
aaronwall 12y ago
Affiliate marketer & spammer are not natural synonyms. Some entities might try to say it is six of one & a half dozen of the other, http://www.seobook.com/brand-vs-affiliate-vs-spam http://www.seobook.com/brand-vs-affiliate-vs-spam but those same entities do not view their own affiliate marketing efforts as spam, even when they are pure spam http://www.seobook.com/google-lends-a-helping-hand http://www.seobook.com/google-lends-a-helping-hand Look at the cloaked affiliate YouTube links to iTunes on music videos. And Google has invested in Viglink, RetailMeNot, etc. In addition to those types of investments, it was Google's ad programs which funded entities like Mahalo & eHow. There are zero affiliates which have made as much off affiliate marketing as Google has.