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That's pretty cool! Thanks for the informative response. Yeah, when I looked at the definition of the problem, it sort of made sense. Le sigh ... dammit, I sh

by mr_luc 17y ago

That's pretty cool! Thanks for the informative response. Yeah, when I looked at the definition of the problem, it sort of made sense. Le sigh ... dammit, I should give Haskell more of my attention. I just hate camel casing and type errors :( And if I'm going to procrastinate about writing For Reals code in a language, various lisps have that covered already. Although, I'm writing a For Reals app in Ruby (w/merb) at the moment, and it's turning into a bit of an uggo. Maybe I'll procrastinate about finishing it, and give Haskell another go.

dfranke 17y ago
I hated static typing too until I learned Haskell. I dabbled in OCaml first and hated even that. Haskell and OCaml use the same basic paradigm for their type systems (Hindey-Milner), but Haskell's variant is more expressive. Typeclasses really made all the difference for me. Also, Haskell is just a really, really difficult language, and it's hard to pass accurate judgment until you've mastered it. When I first started studying Lisp, it took about six weeks of intense study before I really felt like I grokked the language. Coming into Haskell with my existing Lisp background, it took me a year to feel the same way.
- mr_luc 17y ago
  That last paragraph is probably what I most needed to read. I did give The Haskell School of Expression a good whirl -- heh, I brought it down to south america with me, and hacked through a little of it each morning for a couple of months, swinging in a hammock and listening to waves crash and deciding that the water was probably still too cold to go out. But although I understood what I was reading and understood what the code I had written did ... grok I did not. I couldn't think creatively in Haskell AT. ALL. Nonetheless, your comment heartens me. Please reassure me further: are you a person who has ever written or attempted to write a non-trivial mathematic proof?
  - dfranke 17y ago
    Yes. I was a math major.
    - mr_luc 17y ago
      See, there's yer problem. Err, I mean, my problem. Le double sigh.

by mr_luc 17y ago

dfranke 17y ago

I hated static typing too until I learned Haskell. I dabbled in OCaml first and hated even that. Haskell and OCaml use the same basic paradigm for their type systems (Hindey-Milner), but Haskell's variant is more expressive. Typeclasses really made all the difference for me. Also, Haskell is just a really, really difficult language, and it's hard to pass accurate judgment until you've mastered it. When I first started studying Lisp, it took about six weeks of intense study before I really felt like I grokked the language. Coming into Haskell with my existing Lisp background, it took me a year to feel the same way.

mr_luc 17y ago
That last paragraph is probably what I most needed to read. I did give The Haskell School of Expression a good whirl -- heh, I brought it down to south america with me, and hacked through a little of it each morning for a couple of months, swinging in a hammock and listening to waves crash and deciding that the water was probably still too cold to go out. But although I understood what I was reading and understood what the code I had written did ... grok I did not. I couldn't think creatively in Haskell AT. ALL. Nonetheless, your comment heartens me. Please reassure me further: are you a person who has ever written or attempted to write a non-trivial mathematic proof?
- dfranke 17y ago
  Yes. I was a math major.
  - mr_luc 17y ago
    See, there's yer problem. Err, I mean, my problem. Le double sigh.