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Kettlebell swings are generally bad but Deadlifts are considered fundamentals also in the BB area. Explosive Deadlifts are bad, that's for sure specially with

by yulaow 12y ago

Kettlebell swings are generally bad but Deadlifts are considered fundamentals also in the BB area. Explosive Deadlifts are bad, that's for sure specially with high weights, but well slow executed deadlifts are one of the best exercise to strengthen all your body and improve his hormonal response. That's why in a good gym the trainers focus very very very hard on teaching the correct execution ROM before allow you to even start to increase the weights.

Huggernaut 12y ago
I'm not really clear on the authors stance on Kettlebell swings or Deadlifts and a cursory search of her blog didn't provide me with a link to either of the articles she mentioned. Why do you think they are "generally bad"? The author mentions regarding swings, "I don’t do those either because it is not a beneficial movement for the body and typically puts the back in bad positions". I'm not sure what angle she's coming from here (aesthetics?) but explosive hip extension is extremely important for many sports involving sprinting and jumping and kettlebell swings are a nice exercise that's easier to learn than varieties of clean. Like any other lift it has its own risks but there is no reason that with good form one can't perform swings without risking the back any more than other exercises. Her comment about deadlifts is pretty questionable and I wonder what the author is replacing them with for hip dominant movements. I wonder if in this instance she is specifically talking about heavy barbell deadlifts where the back is often the limiting factor rather than the deadlift movement (single leg, staggered, etc) as a whole. The excerpt, "I had never done and to this day I still don’t do them" is pretty suspicious given that the knowledge she would need to have to make an informed decision about whether deadlifts are worthwhile is unlikely to be something she would have had when she started lifting. Seems the author has a predisposition to worrying about her back.
Thriptic 12y ago
You actually want your deadlifts to be reasonably fast. What you don't want to do is attempt to explode off the ground. This leads to back rounding (I think this is what you mean, just clarifying).

by yulaow 12y ago

Huggernaut 12y ago

I'm not really clear on the authors stance on Kettlebell swings or Deadlifts and a cursory search of her blog didn't provide me with a link to either of the articles she mentioned. Why do you think they are "generally bad"? The author mentions regarding swings, "I don’t do those either because it is not a beneficial movement for the body and typically puts the back in bad positions". I'm not sure what angle she's coming from here (aesthetics?) but explosive hip extension is extremely important for many sports involving sprinting and jumping and kettlebell swings are a nice exercise that's easier to learn than varieties of clean. Like any other lift it has its own risks but there is no reason that with good form one can't perform swings without risking the back any more than other exercises. Her comment about deadlifts is pretty questionable and I wonder what the author is replacing them with for hip dominant movements. I wonder if in this instance she is specifically talking about heavy barbell deadlifts where the back is often the limiting factor rather than the deadlift movement (single leg, staggered, etc) as a whole. The excerpt, "I had never done and to this day I still don’t do them" is pretty suspicious given that the knowledge she would need to have to make an informed decision about whether deadlifts are worthwhile is unlikely to be something she would have had when she started lifting. Seems the author has a predisposition to worrying about her back.

Thriptic 12y ago

You actually want your deadlifts to be reasonably fast. What you don't want to do is attempt to explode off the ground. This leads to back rounding (I think this is what you mean, just clarifying).