Really? I would argue that every serious programmer needs to eventually learn those things, and most people I talk to agree with me. If you're a business person

Really? I would argue that every serious programmer needs to eventually learn those things, and most people I talk to agree with me. If you're a business person who wants to learn how to code, that's fine, you don't need a deep understanding of how your machine works; but to be a really good software engineer, I think you need to learn C and assembly, even if you never actually use those languages/concepts directly in your work.