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Feel free to check out Eden's twitter and take some time to appreciate how your approach has affected her (ie she's now in hospital), then consider changing the

by nemof 12y ago

Feel free to check out Eden's twitter and take some time to appreciate how your approach has affected her (ie she's now in hospital), then consider changing the way you deal with issues like this.

FireBeyond 12y ago
Eh, this is the lowest form of argument. Whatever merits this whole thing may or may not have, she's in hospital because of amongst other things, a massive staph infection, not because WePay removed her campaign.
jonknee 12y ago
Why would WePay risk being in breach of their own contracts because a small customer has a sad story? They are required to put a stop to transactions that don't meet the rules, even if it's sad. Internet poker to raise money for chemo would similarly be off limits despite its noble goal.
onewaystreet 12y ago
WePay has the same terms as PayPal, Stripe, etc. It's not out of some moral choice on their parts, it's because all of the major banks in the US deem adult content as risky and forbid it.
- sandmansandine 12y ago
  PayPal and Dwolla seem OK with the content as long as it is not deemed illegal (we do know that Paypal deems illegal whatever it is told though) http://www.bannedwriters.com/payment-service-policies/ http://www.bannedwriters.com/payment-service-policies/ ToS are are proven by courts right...
  - us0r 12y ago
    PayPal flip flops on porn. Back in the day they use to be quite friendly.
- nemof 12y ago
  this is ridiculous. 1) this wasn't about porn, it was about a seriously ill woman who needed help 2) she retweeted some stuff from third parties who weren't part of her campaign, probably out of ignorance, not realizing it might be a problem 3) wepay didn't do the sensible thing and just talk to her and let her know she might be breaking the ToS, they closed down her campaign, her situation escalated and now she's in ER 4) It's amazing that people just say banks deem adult content as risky, and just accept that this is ok. It only just recently broke that banks are actively closing down porn actors bank accounts just because of their profession.
  - deleted 12y ago
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  - philh 12y ago
    It's sad what happened to Eden. But it would also be sad if WePay got in trouble with their back-end processor, because they'd have to pass on that cost to all their other clients. This is a shitty situation, but that doesn't mean any of the parties involved are malicious or evil. > wepay didn't do the sensible thing and just talk to her and let her know she might be breaking the ToS I agree that they probably should have done this.
  - objclxt 12y ago
    > 4) It's amazing that people just say banks deem adult content as risky, and just accept that this is ok. That's because it is risky. No question. Adult services have a higher rate of charge-backs and fraudulently obtained cards than many other sectors.
    - krainboltgreene 12y ago
      Statistics?

by nemof 12y ago

Feel free to check out Eden's twitter and take some time to appreciate how your approach has affected her (ie she's now in hospital), then consider changing the way you deal with issues like this.

FireBeyond 12y ago

Eh, this is the lowest form of argument. Whatever merits this whole thing may or may not have, she's in hospital because of amongst other things, a massive staph infection, not because WePay removed her campaign.

jonknee 12y ago

Why would WePay risk being in breach of their own contracts because a small customer has a sad story? They are required to put a stop to transactions that don't meet the rules, even if it's sad. Internet poker to raise money for chemo would similarly be off limits despite its noble goal.

onewaystreet 12y ago

WePay has the same terms as PayPal, Stripe, etc. It's not out of some moral choice on their parts, it's because all of the major banks in the US deem adult content as risky and forbid it.

sandmansandine 12y ago
PayPal and Dwolla seem OK with the content as long as it is not deemed illegal (we do know that Paypal deems illegal whatever it is told though) http://www.bannedwriters.com/payment-service-policies/ http://www.bannedwriters.com/payment-service-policies/ ToS are are proven by courts right...
- us0r 12y ago
  PayPal flip flops on porn. Back in the day they use to be quite friendly.
nemof 12y ago
this is ridiculous. 1) this wasn't about porn, it was about a seriously ill woman who needed help 2) she retweeted some stuff from third parties who weren't part of her campaign, probably out of ignorance, not realizing it might be a problem 3) wepay didn't do the sensible thing and just talk to her and let her know she might be breaking the ToS, they closed down her campaign, her situation escalated and now she's in ER 4) It's amazing that people just say banks deem adult content as risky, and just accept that this is ok. It only just recently broke that banks are actively closing down porn actors bank accounts just because of their profession.
- deleted 12y ago
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- philh 12y ago
  It's sad what happened to Eden. But it would also be sad if WePay got in trouble with their back-end processor, because they'd have to pass on that cost to all their other clients. This is a shitty situation, but that doesn't mean any of the parties involved are malicious or evil. > wepay didn't do the sensible thing and just talk to her and let her know she might be breaking the ToS I agree that they probably should have done this.
- objclxt 12y ago
  > 4) It's amazing that people just say banks deem adult content as risky, and just accept that this is ok. That's because it is risky. No question. Adult services have a higher rate of charge-backs and fraudulently obtained cards than many other sectors.
  - krainboltgreene 12y ago
    Statistics?