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I'd have to agree, Go is suited to more intermediate level students and Scratch for extreme beginners and younger children, but Ruby? Ruby is like a harder to r

I'd have to agree, Go is suited to more intermediate level students and Scratch for extreme beginners and younger children, but Ruby? Ruby is like a harder to read, slower, less used python. Once rails falls(and it is falling) ruby will become a niche language.

im3w1l 12y ago
I haven't been following the ruby/rails community much. In what way is rails falling?
- Pacabel 12y ago
  Ruby on Rails apps have started causing a lot of problems for a lot of people. Any small initial gains obtained by getting Ruby on Rails web apps put together and deployed rapidly have time and time again been lost many times over due to performance problems, severe maintenance headaches, security flaws, and other issues such as those. In short, it hasn't managed to live up to the immense amount of hype that once surrounded it. Those issues, combined with many other languages now offering web frameworks that are far better than Rails, have caused a lot of developers and organizations to completely abandon it and apps written using it. Few people and organizations have time and other resources to dedicate toward something that is a liability, especially when the alternatives are so plentiful and better these days.
  - rahimnathwani 12y ago
    Which frameworks are far better than Rails? I've used Flask and Django, and like Python due to the large ecosystem of general packages available via pip. However, I've heard that Rails developers can be super-productive due to the much much larger ecosystem of web-related gems. If a Rails developer were to move to another framework, which ones would you recommend and why?
bayesianhorse 12y ago
I think Go isn't particularly suited for students at any level. It is a language built for applications that aim to scale extremely well in the cloud, and usually it is being used to replace small parts of a larger infrastructure. Go does not look as inviting for general web development (when runtime speed is not as essential as features) or general programming outside the web/cloud.

im3w1l 12y ago

I haven't been following the ruby/rails community much. In what way is rails falling?

Pacabel 12y ago
Ruby on Rails apps have started causing a lot of problems for a lot of people. Any small initial gains obtained by getting Ruby on Rails web apps put together and deployed rapidly have time and time again been lost many times over due to performance problems, severe maintenance headaches, security flaws, and other issues such as those. In short, it hasn't managed to live up to the immense amount of hype that once surrounded it. Those issues, combined with many other languages now offering web frameworks that are far better than Rails, have caused a lot of developers and organizations to completely abandon it and apps written using it. Few people and organizations have time and other resources to dedicate toward something that is a liability, especially when the alternatives are so plentiful and better these days.
- rahimnathwani 12y ago
  Which frameworks are far better than Rails? I've used Flask and Django, and like Python due to the large ecosystem of general packages available via pip. However, I've heard that Rails developers can be super-productive due to the much much larger ecosystem of web-related gems. If a Rails developer were to move to another framework, which ones would you recommend and why?

bayesianhorse 12y ago

I think Go isn't particularly suited for students at any level. It is a language built for applications that aim to scale extremely well in the cloud, and usually it is being used to replace small parts of a larger infrastructure. Go does not look as inviting for general web development (when runtime speed is not as essential as features) or general programming outside the web/cloud.