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free/open Internet in China? No way! - You do not have choice of service providers. All providers are government department and there's nearly no competition.

by dengnan 12y ago

free/open Internet in China? No way! - You do not have choice of service providers. All providers are government department and there's nearly no competition. - Try to use Google in China, lots of fun! - Try to access any popular web site in China like Youtube, facebook, etc. Good luck. - If you say something bad about the government on Internet, you may have the risk of being kidnapped by some unknown person and thrown into some unknown mountain area. (No kidding, one of my friend had this experience.) Specific to RMS: I'm the translator of Free as in Freedom (Chinese edition.) Until now, I have no idea if the word "free" (自由) could appear in the title when we publish it. Edit 1: grammar

est 12y ago
Yes because the interwebz is all about the Web. Like one said, the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it
tiatia 12y ago
"- Try to access any popular web site in China like Youtube, facebook, etc. Good luck." Try to access the internet in China. Good luck! (But Baidu always works)
schoen 12y ago
I think the parent commenter was agreeing with you. The English idiom "could do with" (which I think is somewhat uncommon in California, where I live) means something like "could benefit from", "still needs", or "would like". It suggests that someone doesn't yet have the thing that they "could do with", but that it would be good if they did, at least from the speaker's perspective. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/could_do_with https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/could_do_with
- dengnan 12y ago
  Thank you! I didn't know thus expression before. (I can always learn a lot from HN.) Upvote for the Wikipedia link.
sillysaurus3 12y ago
If you say something bad about the government on Internet, you may have the risk of being kidnapped by some unknown person and thrown into some unknown mountain area. (No kidding, one of my friend had this experience.) Would you elaborate? This is very interesting. How did they get out of that situation?
mark_l_watson 12y ago
Thanks for your comment. I did overstep in making my comparison, and I appreciate the feedback. I desire a highly secure and unfettered Internet, and I just get frustrated by countries, and companies, that get in the way of achieving this goal.

by dengnan 12y ago

est 12y ago

Yes because the interwebz is all about the Web. Like one said, the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

tiatia 12y ago

"- Try to access any popular web site in China like Youtube, facebook, etc. Good luck." Try to access the internet in China. Good luck! (But Baidu always works)

schoen 12y ago

I think the parent commenter was agreeing with you. The English idiom "could do with" (which I think is somewhat uncommon in California, where I live) means something like "could benefit from", "still needs", or "would like". It suggests that someone doesn't yet have the thing that they "could do with", but that it would be good if they did, at least from the speaker's perspective. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/could_do_with https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/could_do_with

dengnan 12y ago
Thank you! I didn't know thus expression before. (I can always learn a lot from HN.) Upvote for the Wikipedia link.

sillysaurus3 12y ago

If you say something bad about the government on Internet, you may have the risk of being kidnapped by some unknown person and thrown into some unknown mountain area. (No kidding, one of my friend had this experience.) Would you elaborate? This is very interesting. How did they get out of that situation?

mark_l_watson 12y ago

Thanks for your comment. I did overstep in making my comparison, and I appreciate the feedback. I desire a highly secure and unfettered Internet, and I just get frustrated by countries, and companies, that get in the way of achieving this goal.