Typical midwest ad for a bad shop. That kind often has a very bad work environment, and is unwilling to pay much. Predictably, they end up receiving very bad ap

Typical midwest ad for a bad shop. That kind often has a very bad work environment, and is unwilling to pay much. Predictably, they end up receiving very bad applicants, so they end up being very afraid of permanent positions. Every so often, someone might end up convincing management that paying a bit more is a good idea. Then they get slightly better applicants, who quit quickly, because even if their pay gets close to market rates, their work environment does not. Now, most HN posters would never even apply to an ad like this, but I am sure some of us have spent stints in places only marginally better than this. Either way, the problem is the same: The full compensation package, which includes salary, benefits, a good technology stack and a good work environment, just becomes unattractive for the people of the desired quality. Take the typical Fortune 500 position out there that is attached to a waterfall development model and programming in java 1.4/1.5. They are really not in that different a position as the company that posted the ad in the OP.