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The Linux kernel, how it is developed, and how we stay sane doing it
- kyberias 12y agoWhy on earth doesn't that player have a volume control?
- preek 12y agoBecause most machines these days have volume control built in. You can pause the talk, though, if you want it to shut up for a moment.
- dktbs 12y agoI think most people would expect for an audio player to have volume control. I can't think of another web audio player that doesn't offer it.
- preek 12y agoCTO of voicerepublic.com here. Thank you for the feedback. We just launched VR last week and are actively improving it. I will put a volume control in the Backlog(;
- kyberias 12y agoI believe that should have the highest priority. It's highly unorthodox not to have it, especially for desktop users with a mouse. I was so annoyed I didn't even listen to the audio and immediately shut down the page.
- tormeh 12y agoBut they're completely redundant. What would you use it for?
- macspoofing 12y agoI don't know about you, but I would use it for volume control.
- teraflop 12y agoA web page shouldn't act like it has exclusive ownership of system resources like audio; there may be other pages or applications running, and it's often useful to be able to control them independently. For instance, if I have Gmail open in the background, there's no reason that adjusting the volume of whatever's in the foreground should also force me to change the volume of incoming chat notifications.
- Dewie 12y agoYou said the same thing that I posted just now, only better. Web pages and applications should never assume that they are being used in isolation and without any switching between them.
- comex 12y agoOn this note, it's annoying that OS X doesn't provide an external per-app volume control like Windows has. For example, Gmail's voice chat doesn't have a volume control; if I'm watching an iTunes video at the same time (along with the person I'm voice chatting with) and want iTunes to be louder than the chat (due to background noise from the latter), the best I can do is turn the iTunes volume up, but setting it to maximum is insufficient. With such a feature, I could just turn down the browser's volume, though I suppose it's still worthwhile to have volume controls directly embedded in video players for convenience.
- wtracy 12y agoIt would be nice to turn down the volume on the video I'm playing now, but still have my VoIP app ring loud enough for me to notice it if I'm not paying attention.
- ripter 12y agoI know it sounds weird, but sometimes I have more than one thing on my computer at a time! And some of those things have audio. So it's nice to control the volume of a specific thing, like a video, without having to change the audio for everything else on my system.
- vertex-four 12y agoBandcamp's doesn't.
- dfc 12y agoIt is a real pain in the ass on the Mac in my living room. The mini is hooked up to the stereo via SPDIF and for some reason that I have never bothered figuring out there is no volume control for digital out. For every other application vlc/itunes/etc I can manage the volume. I had to dig the remote out of the coffee table for this talk. Granted it would have been less of an issue without the nasty mic feedback/buzzing from the recording.
- Dewie 12y agoApplications tend to disagree about how loud volumes 1 to 10 should really be. So I tend to adjust youtube videos, music players etc to certain volumes using their "internal" volume control, so that I don't have to risk bleeding from my ears when I turn off the music to watch a video with a video player that sets the volume to 15 by default.
- yeukhon 12y agoMy exact thought. Some Youtube videos already amplified so I must adjust the system. Some are not so I must max Youtube and then increase system until reaching the comfort level.
- temuze 12y agoI'm using Chrome on Linux and I got "You are using an outdated browser - You are using an old version of Chrome whis is 28." That's a little snarky. Chrome on Linux doesn't have automatic updating and I tend to forget to update. Here's a mirror: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LWDDNObuvhgJ:https://voicerepublic.com/venues/223/talks/982+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LWDDNOb...
- preek 12y agoCTO of voicerepublic.com here. Sorry for coming off snarky. We develop and run VR using Debian Stable which ships Chromium 33 right now. We are a very small team building voicerepublic.com and did launch just last week. To offer a perfect experience, we only allow browsers that we actually could test. Whence the team grows, we certainly will test and support more browser versions.
- preek 12y agoUpdate: Some stats After about 4000 hits from HN, about 1% of visitors have a browser older than: * Chrome/Chromium 30 * Safari 7 * Firefox 24 * IE 10
- temuze 12y agoGood answer. And hey, on the bright side, you reminded me to update Chrome!
- dfc 12y agoHow are you not getting chrome updates from your distro?
- binarycrusader 12y agoYou shouldn't keep people out that have older browser versions. Instead, you should prompt the user and warn them that their browser has not been tested and is not supported, but they may continue.
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- Spidler 12y agoWhy am I getting a talk on Openstack at Cern, and not the Greg KH talk?
- preek 12y agoCTO of voicerepublic.com here All talks have unique URLs, so when you click the link from HN, you shouldn't find yourself at another talk. If you can reproduce that problem, I would be very interested in a detailed bug report, though. However, we have multiple talks on Openstack[1], if you were interested(; 1. https://voicerepublic.com/search/1/Openstack https://voicerepublic.com/search/1/Openstack
- Spidler 12y agoOpen the link in this page: Select the "download" option, and pick "ogg" https://voicerepublic.com/system/audio/2014/05/16/DQxIXPoh2TQViKtKlMxlwWSK45TuVThfbwqQEaJQ-iFLaIXVv6OVsLvrxqz5f9zY-982.ogg https://voicerepublic.com/system/audio/2014/05/16/DQxIXPoh2T... is the URL I get, and that isn't Greg speaking
- nuxi7 12y agoHappens to me too. Multiple browsers (Firefox 29 and Chrome 34) The talk at the URL is about something at CERN for me in both browsers. Its an interesting talk, but I don't think its what I'm supposed to be listening too... although maybe thats the joke and this is how they stay sane developing the kernel.
- chandraonline 12y agoI just saw the same problem. I just clicked through to https://voicerepublic.com/venues/223/talks/982 https://voicerepublic.com/venues/223/talks/982 and the recording is for OpenStack at CERN (the text etc refer to Kernel development). The talk starts out "We have a few hundred thousand lines of perl code..." That was a nice little start for a talk about Kernel development!
- pohl 12y agoI had the same problem. All I did was follow the link, then I fumbled trying to click on the white "play" triangle in the lower-left corner of the video-rectangle, until I realized that the teal-blue octagon was the way to start the playing...and, after a while, I realized I was listening to the Openstack audio, even though the title displays as "The Linux Kernel..."
- kasbah 12y agoDoesn't work at all for me in either Chromium or Firefox (all extensions disabled) on Ubuntu 12.04. I just press play and it tries to load and goes back to a play button.
- yeukhon 12y agoI really prefer to have a transcript available. This is for users who prefer to get a feeling of the talk (is it interesting enough for me to stay on it for 30 minutes?) and also for accessibiliy. People who cannot hear should be able to read the transcript, even though I can safely the # of deaf users using your service is so low, but still a transcript would be really nice. I don't expect 100% accurate, which means i am okay with it done by a machine (much like Youtube's transcript). Knowing half of the content is good. This surely is a big project but consider it at some point.
- lawl 12y agoI'd really like to listen to that talk. But first it didn't work on firefox 29, it does though on Chromium 34, for me. But the audio quality is HORRIBLE, my ears are bleeding, I had to give up at 1:21. I tried to search youtube, but no luck so far. If anyone has a better recording, please share. Edit: Since it seems there are no slides anyway and others are having problems with the site, if it doesn't work in your browser, you can try http://voicerepublic.com/vrmedia/982-clean.m4a http://voicerepublic.com/vrmedia/982-clean.m4a with a media player, vlc works for me. still doesn't change a thing about the quality of the recording though.
- dfc 12y agoI was actually surprised by how bad the recording quality was. I had flashbacks to listening to crappy mp3s of HOPE/Defcon presentations in the late 90s and early 00s. I wish there was a nice VLC plugin to clean up audio like this. I imagine an hour with Audacity and one could clean it up, but I have never done anything in Audacity that ended up being as simple as I thought it would be.
- jqm 12y agoIs firefox 20 really that old that this should not work? (ah, well according to you yes, they are now on 28). But is there a reason it shouldn't work? I mean, I understand not supporting I.E6 but it wasn't that long ago I installed this. Or else time is running together on me. Just a tip from a user perspective. If you can avoid forced browser upgrades it's a good idea. I generally don't go any further unless I really really want to see the content.
- dfc 12y agohttps://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firef...
- jqm 12y agoOk, I looked the list of updates. Some of them don't apply to me, many I don't care about, a few I do. So I appreciate the reminder (thanks guys who did the site) and will upgrade ASAP. Still, I didn't identify any change would prevent the site from working so I'm just curious. Anyone care to shed some light on this?
- ogpcc 12y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7757894 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7757894