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> If the "BJP has other policies, which are disturbing", please enlighten us. Just lobbing an attack and walking away doesn't do any good. Well, its stance on

> If the "BJP has other policies, which are disturbing", please enlighten us. Just lobbing an attack and walking away doesn't do any good. Well, its stance on homosexuality, for one. It's not really hard to work out why many people are disturbed by the BJP, and even more so by Modi.

discardorama 12y ago
Why single out BJP? Why not the Congress, which _was_ in power when the High Court judgment came out, and could have passed a law legalizing homosexuality? Actions, as they say, are louder than words. Congress was in a position to enact change; but decided not to.
- anu_gupta 12y ago
  You wanted an example, I gave you an example - I guess you need to move the goalposts as you can't actually deny that Modi and the BJP have spoken out against homosexuality many times. As far as I'm aware, the Congress Party have pledged in their manifesto that the rights of sexual minorities will be protected. If you want to have a reasoned and rational debate, then fine. If you're just going to try to employ cheap debating tricks to win an argument, then I have no real interest in that. Support who you want, makes little difference to me, beta.
  - discardorama 12y ago
    Nobody is moving the goalposts; pointing out fallacies in your argument is called "shedding light" or "exposing the duplicity of BJP's critics". You talked about "stance on homosexuality". Why is the BJP's stance a negative, while the Congress's stance not? Congress was the one that decided to defend the law and argued in court against homosexuality; and yet you find BJP more reprehensible?!?
    - anu_gupta 12y ago
      Why do you keep trying to detail the conversation, beta? Let's recap. 1. You asked for some other examples of disturbing BJP policies. You didn't qualify that in any way. 2. You get provided with an example 3. You're then all "Oh, but other people do that too, why single out my guy?" 4. Your attempts to move the goalpost is called out. 5. You then decide to use the word "fallacy" incorrectly and continue to try to derail. I think Gandhi was a shit. I think Modi is a shit. I think people like you, who continue to prop up the corrupt power structures in India are directly responsible for the mess that India is in. And I think it's reprehensible that all you can do is try to protect a corrupt, bigoted shit with the defence that someone else was a shit too. In future, choose your words and questions more carefully, and don't cry when you get an answer that you specifically asked for.
      - discardorama 12y ago
        Now let me educate you a little, mummy. When you say, "I find X disturbing", that means you are saying "X is not the norm; and I find that deviation upsetting". I am saying that _every_ major political party has that norm in India; otherwise, the 100+ years old laws against homosexuality would not have survived. If you find BJP's stance against homosexuality 'disturbing', then you must be having apoplectic fits at the Congress Party, which has governed India for 50+ years. If they were for gay rights, why didn't _they_ do something? "I think Gandhi was a shit. I think Modi is a shit." ... LOL. Instead of bleating like a goat about the problems, offer a solution. The main reason people support Modi is that he can govern; and he has shown that in Gujarat. However low the bar may be, he is the only one of the current crop of "leaders" who has cleared it. People want good governance, not platitudes. And sure as hell they don't want weed-smoking pseudo-intellectuals who couldn't survive a day doing real field work.

discardorama 12y ago

Why single out BJP? Why not the Congress, which _was_ in power when the High Court judgment came out, and could have passed a law legalizing homosexuality? Actions, as they say, are louder than words. Congress was in a position to enact change; but decided not to.

anu_gupta 12y ago
You wanted an example, I gave you an example - I guess you need to move the goalposts as you can't actually deny that Modi and the BJP have spoken out against homosexuality many times. As far as I'm aware, the Congress Party have pledged in their manifesto that the rights of sexual minorities will be protected. If you want to have a reasoned and rational debate, then fine. If you're just going to try to employ cheap debating tricks to win an argument, then I have no real interest in that. Support who you want, makes little difference to me, beta.
- discardorama 12y ago
  Nobody is moving the goalposts; pointing out fallacies in your argument is called "shedding light" or "exposing the duplicity of BJP's critics". You talked about "stance on homosexuality". Why is the BJP's stance a negative, while the Congress's stance not? Congress was the one that decided to defend the law and argued in court against homosexuality; and yet you find BJP more reprehensible?!?
  - anu_gupta 12y ago
    Why do you keep trying to detail the conversation, beta? Let's recap. 1. You asked for some other examples of disturbing BJP policies. You didn't qualify that in any way. 2. You get provided with an example 3. You're then all "Oh, but other people do that too, why single out my guy?" 4. Your attempts to move the goalpost is called out. 5. You then decide to use the word "fallacy" incorrectly and continue to try to derail. I think Gandhi was a shit. I think Modi is a shit. I think people like you, who continue to prop up the corrupt power structures in India are directly responsible for the mess that India is in. And I think it's reprehensible that all you can do is try to protect a corrupt, bigoted shit with the defence that someone else was a shit too. In future, choose your words and questions more carefully, and don't cry when you get an answer that you specifically asked for.
    - discardorama 12y ago
      Now let me educate you a little, mummy. When you say, "I find X disturbing", that means you are saying "X is not the norm; and I find that deviation upsetting". I am saying that _every_ major political party has that norm in India; otherwise, the 100+ years old laws against homosexuality would not have survived. If you find BJP's stance against homosexuality 'disturbing', then you must be having apoplectic fits at the Congress Party, which has governed India for 50+ years. If they were for gay rights, why didn't _they_ do something? "I think Gandhi was a shit. I think Modi is a shit." ... LOL. Instead of bleating like a goat about the problems, offer a solution. The main reason people support Modi is that he can govern; and he has shown that in Gujarat. However low the bar may be, he is the only one of the current crop of "leaders" who has cleared it. People want good governance, not platitudes. And sure as hell they don't want weed-smoking pseudo-intellectuals who couldn't survive a day doing real field work.