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So? The point of the post is that they think the article's author must have poor hiring practices and cites their own experience hiring as evidence. That's a pe

So? The point of the post is that they think the article's author must have poor hiring practices and cites their own experience hiring as evidence. That's a perfectly reasonable line of argument and I'm not even defending the article on that point. But to the degree to which that evidence is applicable to the business described in the article, the parent's own employee issues are also comparable. If you want to say that manufacturing hiring is simply completely different than in...whatever the article's author does, then sure, but then what's the point of the comparison again? I'd also point out that I don't quite understand why manufacturing hires should involve wanted criminals...

niels_olson 12y ago
Somebody's gotta weld pipe, turn metal, and crank wrenches. I don't see Ivy leaguers applying. A guy who chose the wrong parents and learned to make bad decisions instead of good ones can get these jobs because no one else wants them, and they don't require that much skill.
- cobrausn 12y ago
  Not quite. They do require just enough skill and just enough technical learning to filter out most of the non-college educated population, but not enough to attract any college grads. So you end up hiring the people with the skill who are generally intelligent but don't always (as you said) make smart life decisions. Usually pretty awesome people with a few issues. Disclaimer: Family business (that I am not part of, but do tend to frequent) is a machine shop.
  - niels_olson 12y ago
    > require just enough skill and just enough technical learning to filter out most of the non-college educated Ok, fair enough, although I submit that is pretty much the lowest working definition of a tradable skill. I was, am, in the Navy. Have had to go to the jailhouse with sailors, and have had contract work finished late because the pipe fitters, welders, etc, put valves in backwards, forget to weld before charging the system, etc.

niels_olson 12y ago

Somebody's gotta weld pipe, turn metal, and crank wrenches. I don't see Ivy leaguers applying. A guy who chose the wrong parents and learned to make bad decisions instead of good ones can get these jobs because no one else wants them, and they don't require that much skill.

cobrausn 12y ago
Not quite. They do require just enough skill and just enough technical learning to filter out most of the non-college educated population, but not enough to attract any college grads. So you end up hiring the people with the skill who are generally intelligent but don't always (as you said) make smart life decisions. Usually pretty awesome people with a few issues. Disclaimer: Family business (that I am not part of, but do tend to frequent) is a machine shop.
- niels_olson 12y ago
  > require just enough skill and just enough technical learning to filter out most of the non-college educated Ok, fair enough, although I submit that is pretty much the lowest working definition of a tradable skill. I was, am, in the Navy. Have had to go to the jailhouse with sailors, and have had contract work finished late because the pipe fitters, welders, etc, put valves in backwards, forget to weld before charging the system, etc.