It's really worth noting that this terrible version of MVC didn't start with the web. MFC used a similar version of the concept way back when. I think it comes

It's really worth noting that this terrible version of MVC didn't start with the web. MFC used a similar version of the concept way back when. I think it comes from the inflexible object model that languages like C++ (particularly the 90s version of it) and Java use. It's just almost impossible to avoid strong coupling that defeats a lot of the advantages of the model. What's really a shame is that Rails fell into the trap even though Ruby has a rich and flexible object model. But yeah. This expresses a lot of the things I feel about MVC for the web.