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Andrew, is in my opinion, one of the smartest people alive today. Call it what you'd like, but I'd love to see his work going into an American company.

by auston 12y ago

btrombley 12y ago
I 100% agree that Andrew is one of the smartest people I've ever met, but I for one wouldn't mind if Baidu started to challenge Google in the deep learning space. International competition will be better for American companies than Google's current monopoly on the research and experts.
- goldfeld 12y ago
  It never ceases to amaze me how many americans completely overlook this in their blind patriotism. Baidu today may well be the only company able to challenge Google's strength on the search engine land, and an effective monopoly (i.e. if Google got their way with China and toppled Baidu) would be sad for mankind. Here's hoping instead that a breath of american mindset at Baidu can slowly make it reach out of China and who knows, challenge Google with (non-censored as in China, and non-NSA'd as in Google) english results.
  - justicezyx 12y ago
    Given Baidu's long history of being "cooperative" with Government, I cannot support such a company to be an effective competitor to Google. Besides, deep learning is about far more than just search.
    - xux 12y ago
      You can say the same about Google.
    - DominikR 12y ago
      Every company has to be cooperative with its government, or relocate/close. It just happens that Google isn't based in China, therefore they were able to make the decision not to expand to China. But in the US, Google will have to accept basically anything the government demands, as long as it is backed by the courts. (which isn't that hard since the government just invents secret courts based on secret laws that back almost 100% of the governments demands)
pmelendez 12y ago
I share that opinion and giving the fact that Hinton is on Google tells me that this would balance quite nicely the search engine industry
fmax30 12y ago
I agree with you completely , i always wanted to work with him or for him , just to see how his thought process worked. He is the reason that i want to get a Graduate degree in machine learning.
rhizome 12y ago
I don't think the nationality of the company matters.
- thinkpad20 12y ago
  There are good reasons to want America to succeed that have nothing to do with nationalism. In particular, China has a very poor record on human rights, and is the main supporter of North Korea. This doesn't make the company bad, but it's not an irrelevant fact.
  - azth 12y ago
    Perhaps this would be a wake up call for all the politicians driving the US down in terms of IT progress. Or, perhaps all they care about is money and it won't change a thing.
  - rhizome 12y ago
    Cheering for a country based upon an image of that country is the very definition of nationalism.
  - DominikR 12y ago
    And the US has better records on human rights with all the lawful torturing and countless wars going on? I'm pretty sure that China has caused less deaths or generally harm to innocents than the US has in the last 20 years.
    - auston 12y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_sovereignty_debate#Human_rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_sovereignty_debate#Huma...
  - visarga 12y ago
    >China has a very poor record on human rights Guantanamo
    - 12y ago

Andrew, is in my opinion, one of the smartest people alive today. Call it what you'd like, but I'd love to see his work going into an American company.

by auston 12y ago

Andrew, is in my opinion, one of the smartest people alive today. Call it what you'd like, but I'd love to see his work going into an American company.

btrombley 12y ago

I 100% agree that Andrew is one of the smartest people I've ever met, but I for one wouldn't mind if Baidu started to challenge Google in the deep learning space. International competition will be better for American companies than Google's current monopoly on the research and experts.

goldfeld 12y ago
It never ceases to amaze me how many americans completely overlook this in their blind patriotism. Baidu today may well be the only company able to challenge Google's strength on the search engine land, and an effective monopoly (i.e. if Google got their way with China and toppled Baidu) would be sad for mankind. Here's hoping instead that a breath of american mindset at Baidu can slowly make it reach out of China and who knows, challenge Google with (non-censored as in China, and non-NSA'd as in Google) english results.
- justicezyx 12y ago
  Given Baidu's long history of being "cooperative" with Government, I cannot support such a company to be an effective competitor to Google. Besides, deep learning is about far more than just search.
  - xux 12y ago
    You can say the same about Google.
  - DominikR 12y ago
    Every company has to be cooperative with its government, or relocate/close. It just happens that Google isn't based in China, therefore they were able to make the decision not to expand to China. But in the US, Google will have to accept basically anything the government demands, as long as it is backed by the courts. (which isn't that hard since the government just invents secret courts based on secret laws that back almost 100% of the governments demands)

pmelendez 12y ago

I share that opinion and giving the fact that Hinton is on Google tells me that this would balance quite nicely the search engine industry

fmax30 12y ago

I agree with you completely , i always wanted to work with him or for him , just to see how his thought process worked. He is the reason that i want to get a Graduate degree in machine learning.

rhizome 12y ago

I don't think the nationality of the company matters.

thinkpad20 12y ago
There are good reasons to want America to succeed that have nothing to do with nationalism. In particular, China has a very poor record on human rights, and is the main supporter of North Korea. This doesn't make the company bad, but it's not an irrelevant fact.
- azth 12y ago
  Perhaps this would be a wake up call for all the politicians driving the US down in terms of IT progress. Or, perhaps all they care about is money and it won't change a thing.
- rhizome 12y ago
  Cheering for a country based upon an image of that country is the very definition of nationalism.
- DominikR 12y ago
  And the US has better records on human rights with all the lawful torturing and countless wars going on? I'm pretty sure that China has caused less deaths or generally harm to innocents than the US has in the last 20 years.
  - auston 12y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_sovereignty_debate#Human_rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_sovereignty_debate#Huma...
- visarga 12y ago
  >China has a very poor record on human rights Guantanamo
  - 12y ago