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I have the same problem with my gaming PC. When I boot it up, I have numerous updates for Windows, Steam, games, etc.

by rexf 12y ago

awj 12y ago
Sure, but that's been true of PCs for ages. We're all used to the idea that PCs need to be updated. To me one of the advantages to consoles was that they could pick up and play at any moment.
- TylerE 12y ago
  At least with my PS4, I've never been forced to download/install an update, either game or OS. You simply can't use online features if you aren't up to date.
wlesieutre 12y ago
But how often do you not turn your PC on for a month? That's much more common with consoles. Steam is running all the time when my computer is on (and I use my computer every day), and games just keep themselves up to date. For a given game that I'm trying to play, there's maybe a 15 minute period every couple of months when I wouldn't be able to launch it immediately. The Windows updates aren't required in order to play games, and they can just be delayed until the next time you're restarting. Not a huge deal there.
- Argorak 12y ago
  Very often. I don't have a regular gaming habit, that applies to both my gaming enviroment (strictly speaking, the Windows side of my mac) and my console. For the console, btw.: all of them support nightly updates, so I rarely have the problem there.
- rexf 12y ago
  My gaming PC is used occaisionally, and I do not leave it on when not in use. My day to day computer usage is a separate machine running OSX. The worst was when my Windows machine would restart itself in the middle of gaming to install updates, but luckily you can turn that off.
katbyte 12y ago
unless something has changed, steam updates are usually optional. Also pc's are often left on/used for other things so the windows, steam and game updates all kinda just download and install in the background so when you go to play its usually just ready, unlike consoles where you turn it on and it then has to download/install everything as you wait to play.
Amarok 12y ago
One of the reasons I switched from windows to debian was not having to deal with windows-style updates: you can have the computer running and don't need to reboot after updating. I wonder if someone already thought of applying the same principle to consoles.
- baby 12y ago
  How is it that you don't need to reboot your computer to update with UNIX but you do have to reboot your computer quite often on Windows?
  - rocky1138 12y ago
    There are still a few instances where rebooting Linux after an update is a good idea. Kernel updates, for one. Mostly, though, the applications and services in Linux can be restarted individually, making updates a non-reboot snap.
Twirrim 12y ago
Windows updates aren't required before you can start playing a game, which is a huge advantage.
barbs 12y ago
Windows updates are the worst. Once it decided to restart to install updates right in the middle of a dota game. I now run linux mint on my gaming rig, so that's never a problem
- stinos 12y ago
  another solution (solely to the updating problem) would be to disable automaitc updates, no?
  - barbs 12y ago
    Well, in a sense. I'd still want automatic updates, but what I don't want is it to automatically force the computer to restart. This is possible to turn off in Windows, but requires fiddling with the registry. I just realised that my original post wasn't clear - my computer RESTARTED in the middle of my game. Hence my frustration :).

I have the same problem with my gaming PC. When I boot it up, I have numerous updates for Windows, Steam, games, etc.

by rexf 12y ago

I have the same problem with my gaming PC. When I boot it up, I have numerous updates for Windows, Steam, games, etc.

awj 12y ago

Sure, but that's been true of PCs for ages. We're all used to the idea that PCs need to be updated. To me one of the advantages to consoles was that they could pick up and play at any moment.

TylerE 12y ago
At least with my PS4, I've never been forced to download/install an update, either game or OS. You simply can't use online features if you aren't up to date.

wlesieutre 12y ago

But how often do you not turn your PC on for a month? That's much more common with consoles. Steam is running all the time when my computer is on (and I use my computer every day), and games just keep themselves up to date. For a given game that I'm trying to play, there's maybe a 15 minute period every couple of months when I wouldn't be able to launch it immediately. The Windows updates aren't required in order to play games, and they can just be delayed until the next time you're restarting. Not a huge deal there.

Argorak 12y ago
Very often. I don't have a regular gaming habit, that applies to both my gaming enviroment (strictly speaking, the Windows side of my mac) and my console. For the console, btw.: all of them support nightly updates, so I rarely have the problem there.
rexf 12y ago
My gaming PC is used occaisionally, and I do not leave it on when not in use. My day to day computer usage is a separate machine running OSX. The worst was when my Windows machine would restart itself in the middle of gaming to install updates, but luckily you can turn that off.

katbyte 12y ago

unless something has changed, steam updates are usually optional. Also pc's are often left on/used for other things so the windows, steam and game updates all kinda just download and install in the background so when you go to play its usually just ready, unlike consoles where you turn it on and it then has to download/install everything as you wait to play.

Amarok 12y ago

One of the reasons I switched from windows to debian was not having to deal with windows-style updates: you can have the computer running and don't need to reboot after updating. I wonder if someone already thought of applying the same principle to consoles.

baby 12y ago
How is it that you don't need to reboot your computer to update with UNIX but you do have to reboot your computer quite often on Windows?
- rocky1138 12y ago
  There are still a few instances where rebooting Linux after an update is a good idea. Kernel updates, for one. Mostly, though, the applications and services in Linux can be restarted individually, making updates a non-reboot snap.

Twirrim 12y ago

Windows updates aren't required before you can start playing a game, which is a huge advantage.

barbs 12y ago

Windows updates are the worst. Once it decided to restart to install updates right in the middle of a dota game. I now run linux mint on my gaming rig, so that's never a problem

stinos 12y ago
another solution (solely to the updating problem) would be to disable automaitc updates, no?
- barbs 12y ago
  Well, in a sense. I'd still want automatic updates, but what I don't want is it to automatically force the computer to restart. This is possible to turn off in Windows, but requires fiddling with the registry. I just realised that my original post wasn't clear - my computer RESTARTED in the middle of my game. Hence my frustration :).