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And this is why "cloud" software will always be worse then regular software. What happens when these "cloud" companies go out of business? You're pretty much

by Fuxy 12y ago

And this is why "cloud" software will always be worse then regular software. What happens when these "cloud" companies go out of business? You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Don't ever rely on "cloud" software for critical infrastructure unless you own that cloud. Everybody get CS6 and delay upgrading as long as you can.

prawks 12y ago
> You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Everyone who seriously considers moving mission-critical software or infrastructure to the cloud should (if they don't already) have a contingency plan at the forefront of their evaluation of any platform/service. Evaluations of solutions like that take away much of the risk that you're proposing. It's also just smart business.
- LoganCale 12y ago
  The problem is, Adobe never did this and abruptly forced everyone to switch to a subscription model if they wanted to upgrade. And existing versions only keep working for so long unless you keep the same hardware/operating system with them forever. So suddenly, thousands of people who rely on Adobe software daily are forced to switch to a subscription-only model.
cmiller1 12y ago
I disagree in some specific cases. For software that is focused around accessing shared data. Say, ERP, document collaboration, etc. for small businesses that can't afford or don't want dedicated IT staff cloud based software makes a lot of sense.
- nitrogen 12y ago
  It makes a lot of sense iff those businesses lose less money on cloud+ISP downtime than they would spend on IT staff or on-site support from a retail store.
- owlmanatt 12y ago
  What's the point of that? You still need to worry about your own off-cloud backups and a contingency plan for when your vendor goes out of business.
reboog711 12y ago
The Adobe "Creative Cloud" is not cloud software. It just the Adobe Creative Suite desktop applications sold on a subscription model. The problem here was that they added DRM to it to make sure you can't use it if you don't have an active subscription and those 'call home' servers failed. It is more of a DRM problem than a 'cloud' problem.
copperheart 12y ago
Our shop is currently holding at CS6, and we have no desire to 'upgrade' to CC. Unfortunately, customers have been sending in artwork and source files created in CC, so we will eventually be forced into Adobe's subscription plan unless some other full-featured software suite of equal or greater capability comes along.
- err4nt 12y ago
  Does Creative Cloud not allow you to save in a format compatible with previous versions of Photoshop? I ask for open formats from people. Send me something I can work with in my choice of software! Save multiple versions and deliver those just for redundancy. There's no excuse if you're using pro-level software to ever say "well I guess you'll have to buy it to do something with this"

by Fuxy 12y ago

prawks 12y ago

> You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Everyone who seriously considers moving mission-critical software or infrastructure to the cloud should (if they don't already) have a contingency plan at the forefront of their evaluation of any platform/service. Evaluations of solutions like that take away much of the risk that you're proposing. It's also just smart business.

LoganCale 12y ago
The problem is, Adobe never did this and abruptly forced everyone to switch to a subscription model if they wanted to upgrade. And existing versions only keep working for so long unless you keep the same hardware/operating system with them forever. So suddenly, thousands of people who rely on Adobe software daily are forced to switch to a subscription-only model.

cmiller1 12y ago

I disagree in some specific cases. For software that is focused around accessing shared data. Say, ERP, document collaboration, etc. for small businesses that can't afford or don't want dedicated IT staff cloud based software makes a lot of sense.

nitrogen 12y ago
It makes a lot of sense iff those businesses lose less money on cloud+ISP downtime than they would spend on IT staff or on-site support from a retail store.
owlmanatt 12y ago
What's the point of that? You still need to worry about your own off-cloud backups and a contingency plan for when your vendor goes out of business.

reboog711 12y ago

The Adobe "Creative Cloud" is not cloud software. It just the Adobe Creative Suite desktop applications sold on a subscription model. The problem here was that they added DRM to it to make sure you can't use it if you don't have an active subscription and those 'call home' servers failed. It is more of a DRM problem than a 'cloud' problem.

copperheart 12y ago

Our shop is currently holding at CS6, and we have no desire to 'upgrade' to CC. Unfortunately, customers have been sending in artwork and source files created in CC, so we will eventually be forced into Adobe's subscription plan unless some other full-featured software suite of equal or greater capability comes along.

err4nt 12y ago
Does Creative Cloud not allow you to save in a format compatible with previous versions of Photoshop? I ask for open formats from people. Send me something I can work with in my choice of software! Save multiple versions and deliver those just for redundancy. There's no excuse if you're using pro-level software to ever say "well I guess you'll have to buy it to do something with this"